I have seen banding in prints from 8 bit files several times. But related to one of your comments- contrast manipulation of an 8 bit original. It's worth noting that there is also loss when editing 16 bit files, it's just that you're usually still left with far more then 256 levels after the fact. Banding that is not a file problem can occur as well, say from imperfect partitioning for quads, basically any non linear workflow or output system. I've seen banded color output caused by bad profiles. Whether or not some drivers or RIPs actually utilize 16 bit in is still not certain. Because they may accept it doesn't necessarly mean they use it. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Pieris Berreitter" <pieris@y...> wrote: > > Hm, so there are RIPs that print 16-bit images... I know QTR uses > 8-bit TIFFs and I assumed the Epson printer driver is 8-bit only. I > had assumed 16-bit workflows are only useful during manipulation, and > I guess that's valid unless you have a 16-bit RIP. > > Roy made a good point that I hadn't considered: you need to (at least) > double the number of grays we can distinguish between to prevent the > eye from seeing banding in continuous-tone regions. > > "Metrology mania" aside, I have so far not seen a case of banding that > couldn't be tracked back to the image file. > > -Pieris > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > Pieris, > > > > >How many discrete levels of gray ... do we get out of a quadtone > inkjet? > > ... > > > > I printed a 256 test chart with the C86 and EZ inks. My X-Rite (DPT > 22) was > > able to measure the difference between all the steps with 2 > exceptions. The > > top and bottom 2 steps were essentially the same. > > > > I was amazed at how well the little printer did. > > > > A more interesting question might be whether the most expensive RIPs can > > match the C86. > > > > I, for sure, don't have the patience to see if one of the 16 bit > printing > > utilities (like IJC) can separate all those levels. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: [Digital BW] How many shades of gray
2005-01-13 by Tyler Boley
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