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Re: [Digital BW] CIS or EZ Refill cart for C86

2005-01-17 by scott_now_coming

"Scott, even if I am not printing everyday, with EZ Refill, the unused
inks are sitting in their own plastic container if you know what I
mean.... :-)"

John,

That's not a problem, if the carts sit for a reasonable amount of 
time.

However, for whatever reason, the CIS is prone to sucking in air into 
the system is it's not used daily, and the ink drys out around the 
head.

Link to InkSupplies'website that talks about this situation (scroll 
down the page):

http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/utez.html

I'll post this from their website:

"If you are a frequent printer or doing some production work, then we 
recommend you purchase a MIS Continuous Flow System for your C82, C84 
or C86 printer. This will save you a tremendous amount of money. The 
cost to operate a CFS is at least 10 times less than using 
cartridges. If you only print occasionally, then do not get a CFS. If 
left idle for 3 or 4 days at a time, CFS units can start to develop 
problems. Our AUTOPRINT program (see CFS Page- halfway down) can be 
used to prevent problems from occuring, provided the printer and its 
computer remain powered. "

Their is a program that you can install on your computer to 
automatically run a purge print each day, to try to prevent problems 
from non-use.

But I think that would be im-practicle unless you printer, say, 5 
days a week. Or, maybe you left town for a day or two or whatever.

I just hate to see someone have a bad experiance from the start and 
get turned off to the whole b&w digital printing process.

And, I'll close with this: Not including the price of the carts, the 
re-filled carts cost $1.37/each to re-fill if you buy pints. Buying 
gallons, the cost drops to $0.98 each to fill.

With that kind of savings, I'm not going to mess with the CFS.

Let us know how it works out for you.



Scott



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John" 
<firewoodtech@y...> wrote:
> 
> Scott and Paul, thanks for the quick response.
> 
> The reason I asked is.... those china-made CIS (which most U.S. co. 
> are getting their parts from) are almost the same price as the EZ 
> Refill cart. I can easily order them over the net.
> 
> I agreed with Paul that EZ Fill is very flexible IF you are going 
to 
> switch between blacks but I prefer mostly glossy. 
> 
> Scott, even if I am not printing everyday, with EZ Refill, the 
unused 
> inks are sitting in their own plastic container if you know what I 
> mean.... :-)
> 
> Thanks again
> John
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > >I just order C86 ...
> > > Should I buy a CIS or Refill cart. with EZ-N inkset?
> > 
> > I'd go with the easy-refill carts.
> > 
> > For me the flexibility to try different combinations of carts for 
> different
> > tones is important.  I might also want to switch between glossy 
and 
> matte
> > blacks.  With a CFS, you're locked in.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> >Hi John,
> >
> >First off, I don't have both systems.
> >
> >I do re-fill the new clear carts and you will save a lot of money
> >doing so. I buy pints. If these pints go fast enough, I'm going for
> >the gallons next time.
> >
> >MIS recommends to not use a CIS unless you print everyday. I don't
> >know if you saw that on their website or not.
> >
> >I print a lot, but not everyday, so I'm avoiding it.
> >
> >I guess it will come down to how much priting you do.
> >
> >I'm sure someone here that uses a CIS will tell you the pros and 
> >cons.

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