John: Could you please post the web site address to find the QRTgui profiles that you mentioned here. Thanks, David Neely David Neely Photo -------Original Message------- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/13/05 18:35:10 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] QTRgui, B-O, and profiles The reason canned profiles aren't necessary for BO or for QTRgui is this: Some photographers still know how to visualize and translate from color (the world around us) to Black and White. A basic Ansel Adams kind of idea. Also, some of us are not interested in large prints, where Black Only dots might be seen ...my own testing indicates that there is no perceptable difference between B.O. and QTR results on a given paper EXCEPT that QTRgui gives wonderful control over print tone tone (cold to sepia) whereas Black Only simply produces the kind of effect a given paper wants to produce, emphasizing warm tones because the Epson OEM pigment is somewhat warm. B&W art and portrait photogs have worked simply, with virtually no science, for generations, simply liking their favorite paper...eg the look of Agfa Brovira or Portriga Rapid (get either with QTRgui)or with the look of of Kodak's portrait papers (either QTRgui OR Black-Only). Many good photographers won't give two hoots either way. B.O. makes very nice B&W ... deep, true blacks on every paper I've tried... some photographers will find this their ultimate solution, and as usual some will want more science and numbers than QTRgui can offer, lusting for complexity... Me, I can go either way :-) Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] QTRgui, B-O, and profiles
2005-02-14 by David Neely
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