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Re: [Digital BW] Printer inconsistencies, was VM curves

2001-11-17 by Steadman Uhlich

No, You got it.  

I agree with the inconsistency of printers possibility.  Makes sense to me.  

As for the inconsistency of MIS VM inks....I mean...my gosh...what next?  

(wINK)

Steadman
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Todd Flashner 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 5:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Printer inconsistencies, was VM curves



  > Todd, 
  > 
  > Am I understanding this right.....You are getting "inconsistencies" with MIS
  > VM inks? 


  Yes my experience with this printer includes both Piezo inks and MIS VM. But
  incase your question is "is MIS VM prone to greenies or DSS" I don't know,
  but I don't think what I am referring to is as drastic as either of those.
  My point was I think printers go through periods of subtle variance, which
  makes predictability difficult.

  I think what I am speaking to is printer inconsistencies that occur without
  regard to what ink is in them. I sometimes get this microbanding (would
  someone please define microbanding and submicrobanding for me, and what is
  the corduroy banding called?) even on my 1270 with Epson inks.

  Sorry if I misunderstood where you were coming from.

  Todd

  > I've noticed that my separation of lower values had diminished recently. I
  > used all 4 of Paul's VMM11 curves (for Mac and 1160) to print out Tyler's
  > Zees not long ago (in the files section. No better test I know of for tonal
  > separation) with very good success. Today, with no changes to ink, paper, or
  > workflow, I have less separation of my lower tones.
  > 
  > So, I know it's not the quality of the curves that is at fault, or a
  > difference between printers, or materials. The only changes that are coming
  > to mind is climate, and printer usage, neither of which has altered that
  > dramatically in the month or two since my excellent results with the same
  > test.
  > 
  > I find so much of this so terribly frustrating. The mysterious
  > inconsistencies. Sometimes in smooth tones areas my prints will have a
  > corduroy patterned banding (running perpendicular to the travel of the head)
  > and sometimes microbanding or sub-microbanding (not real sure about what
  > either of these terms really means, but what I get is fine white "etch"
  > lines which run parallel to the print head movement. Very tiny, like little
  > grain lines, which gives a mechanical feel to the print. Need to look pretty
  > close to see it (but how close to subconsciously perceive it?)). Then other
  > days these things are NOT present.
  > 
  > Do other people get minor variance with their systems day to day or week to
  > week, or do I just make my printer moody with my demands? (I think that
  > would be my wife's guess)
  > 
  > Todd
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