>I'm not having any luck trying to build a profile from scratch. I'm not a profile building expert but I think the generally accepted wisdom among people who are is that it's best to start with some profile and work off of it rather than literally starting from scratch. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Baker" <tbaker1328@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] IJC/OPM vx. IP Thanks Lou - I use Somerset Velvet, Brightcube Satine, EP Textured Fine Art (mostly color for repros of watercolors), and will probably add one or two Innova and BC papers. I'm not having any luck trying to build a profile from scratch. Can't get the Tweaked Target to print. Also, the 'manual' says the tragets should be printing in gray scale. What I'm seeing is color. Today's activity will be to take an existing 2200 profile and linerize it for my printer. I just EEM for this since there are so many profiles for it. With the UC ink set this should get me real close. Is there a library of profiles other than the rather limited one on the IJC site? THX Tom Baker Louis Dina <lbdina@...> wrote: Hi Tom. My results mirror Alan's precisely. Compared to the Epson driver, ImagePrint was a big improvement and gave much better neutrals. I find IJC/OPM to be that same quantum leap over IP. Tonal separation is much better. I find the results to be silky and smooth compared to IP. I can create profiles that match the paper and give me the best Dmax. It has always irked me that IP has no linearization, ink limiting or other high end tools, and that you simply cannot build your own B&W profiles. At the price, those should be included. IJC/OPM offers these tools in an easy to use package and the results are superb. And you don't need multiple licenses to run on two different printers. I far prefer blending profiles to the tint picker in IP. I get better control, and if I want, I can go much further when toning, if desired. IP has some features, such as step and repeat, and printing multiple images in a single run, and doing color, which IJC/OPM does not support. IJC/OPM is one image at a time and is targeted more at people who want great B&W and toned B&W art prints. I see IP as more production oriented, and for people who want better results than the Epson driver with canned profiles, but without a lot of fuss, profiling, etc. But that comes at the price of less quality and control, IMO. Each product has its market and IP is good, but expensive solution. Peter, I hope this gives you some ideas why I like IJC/OPM. I like the ability to build my own profiles. Regards, Lou --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm new to this forum, and I've just started trying to print black and white with > QTR. I'd be interested to hear why you went with IJC/OPM? > > TIA, > > peter > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > > > I have now worked with IP 6.0 and IJC/OPM on an Epson 2200 with UC inks. > My favorite test image has been printed on several different papers with both > products. To summarize, I'm finding the MAJOR difference between the two is > that IJC/OPM clearly separates deep shadow tonality (say, 3/4 tones or, > maybe, a little further down the scale to black) where IP simply dumps these > values. This with the Black Point slider set to 100, too! I've actually been quite > amazed by this performance level in IJC/OPM! > > > > Also, the ability to get different "color" from very cool through warm to sepia is > much easier and more consistent, IMO, with IJC/OPM than with the Tint Picker > in IP. > > > > Again, IMO, IJC/OPM is THE solution for printing B&W on an inkjet printer, > especially using the stock UC inks. > > > > Alan Huntley > > > > > > > > From: Tom Baker > > > Date: 2005/02/16 Wed PM 03:55:47 EST > > > To: B&WPrintGroup > > > Subject: [Digital BW] IJC/OPM vx. IP > > > > > > > > > On a 9600 w/UC inks. What advantages, from image quality standpoint, > does IPC/OPM provide over IP6 for b&w? 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Re: [Digital BW] IJC/OPM vx. IP
2005-02-17 by B. Ellis