Louis Dina wrote: >Tim, > >Strangely, on matte papers the 2200 has a larger gamut, and it seems >to me, higher quality and smoother gradations. I have seen this on >two different R800's and I have a color management expert friend who >has confirmed these findings in his profiles. You can see it both in >the print and when comparing profiles using Chromix ColorThink. > > In the past there has been a discussion on the Colorsync list how the CcMmYK inks create a wider gamut than CMYK printers. You can either describe it as better subtractive color mixing of the larger LC and LM dots compared to what small C and M dots deliver or less white paper in the highlights with a CcMmYK printer so more color. I prefer the first description. That's the difference between CMYK and CcMmYK gamut. The bigger gamut of the R800 on gloss will probably be in other hue regions (full red, orange, blue, violet) than the bigger gamut of the 2200 on matte papers (pastel colors mainly). The gamut shapes will be different and the total color (in delta E) number doesn't tell that. Dot formation, smaller droplets with more circumference hence different bleeding on the edges and into the coating per paper quality influences the gamut possible, that's less a problem with diluted colors like LC and LM that already did bleed in a sense than with full colors like red and blue. So the R800 probably loses its strength in the full colors and didn't get something in return. To put it in another perspective the better strong red, orange, blue, violet became equal to the MY, MYY, MC, MMC mixes of a normal CMYK printer on matte papers. The 2200 strength in the pastels didn't suffer as much. Comparing rotogravure color mixing with offset color mixing in a sense, the first excels on cheap matte papers. Ernst
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson R1800 vs 2200..need opinion fast
2005-02-23 by Ernst Dinkla
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