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[Digital BW] Re: Epson R1800 vs 2200..need opinion fast

2005-02-23 by Louis Dina

Thanks, Steve.

Could you point me to the specific cartridges and inks you are 
talking about?  I am assuming you are talking about UT7 ink?  I may 
give it a try.  I'm not fond of changing cartridges, and all the 
posts about clogging, purging and cleaning make me a bit nervous.  
That is why I was going to wait until I got a new printer.  The, I'd 
have a color printer that I could also use for B&W with OEM inks in 
case I have a bad experience with dedicated inks mucking up my 2200.

Right now, I am getting Dmax of 1.7 or greater on matte papers and up 
to 2.1 to 2.3 on glossy papers with the UC inkset.  And my prints are 
very neutral throughout the tonal range.  Not bad for a color inkset 
and no need to change cartridges.  Still, I'd be interested in trying 
dedicated B&W inks.  I just don't want to deal with potential 
clogging problems.

Regards, Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale 
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> Lou
> 
> With MIS empty cartridges you can get the best of both worlds with 
your
> 2200.  Swapping out the inks and flushing is really not a hassle 
with the
> 2200.  
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> > From: Louis Dina <lbdina@c...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:37:24 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson R1800 vs 2200..need opinion fast
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Tim,
> > 
> > I cannot comment about the R1800 or the R800 for B&W, but I have
> > built custom COLOR profiles for two different R800's using my Eye 
One
> > and Profile Maker 5.
> > 
> > The R800 (same technology as the R1800) has a larger gamut for 
glossy
> > and semi gloss papers than the 2200 (which I own).  The red, blue 
and
> > gloss cartridges extend the color range and Dmax.  So, for color
> > printing on glossy type papers, it seems to be a winner.
> > 
> > Strangely, on matte papers the 2200 has a larger gamut, and it 
seems
> > to me, higher quality and smoother gradations.  I have seen this 
on
> > two different R800's and I have a color management expert friend 
who
> > has confirmed these findings in his profiles.  You can see it 
both in
> > the print and when comparing profiles using Chromix ColorThink.
> > 
> > I have also been looking for a new color printer, with the intent 
of
> > converting my 2200 to quad inks.  At this time, I am biding my 
time.
> > Not sure if I will even go that route, since I am getting such 
superb
> > B&W results using IJC/OPM for Windows and the Epson UC inkset.
> > 
> > Hope the above adds a little more to your thinking process.
> > 
> > Lou
> >

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