Digital BW, The Print

Lick your thumb and forefinger (don't slobber).  Then grab a corner 
of the paper where you won't be printing between your wet thumb and 
forefinger.  The stickier side is the printable side.  In most cases, 
but not all, the whiter side is the side you print on.  I prefer the 
wet finger test.

Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "B. Ellis" 
<bellis60@v...> wrote:
> "Velvet is one of the hardest to discern for me (probably), so I'm 
very
> careful how I remove the paper from the pack."
> 
> Me too, and I isomehow managed to lose the instructions that come 
with the
> paper so I don't know which side from the box is the correct side. 
I can see
> that one side looks a little rougher or coarser than the other. 
Which is the
> correct side for printing?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Diane Fields" <picnic@c...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR surprises....
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for addressing that--I was never sure if the double sided 
papers were
> coated or not (had I looked further at inkjetart.com I would have 
realized
> this--at least ones like Hahnemuhle PHotorag which I use single 
sided).  I
> have used non-coated art papers in the past--primarily with my 
1280.  I
> bought a sample pack from Inkjetart a good while back--still may 
have some
> (some Arches papers, maybe a Somerset, etc.).  However, with the 
2200 which
> I've used as my primary printer for over 2 years  I have stuck to 
just a few
> papers which I find good (which are coated, I know)--and I 
certainly do know
> that the papers, even with good paper profiles and color printing--
or
> montone-- will affect the print--warmer, cooler, etc.--Thus why I'm
> surprised, I don't know--except perhaps I thought a RIP would 
handle this
> differently since printing directly out of PS/paper profile and not 
using
> the RIP DID give me a quite 'neutral' print--or at least a much 
cooler
> version.
> 
> Using this RIP, however, seems to push me to start over, more or 
less, to
> find the best curves for its use.  Using PS/paper profiles I 
generally
> 'toned' my prints slightly (duotones or otherwise) to sneak by 
(hopefully)
> the metamerism issue.  I've been considering making the 1280 a 
dedicated b/w
> printer for several years, but if I can arrive at curves/presets I 
like
> without metamerism I think this is the better way for me to go 
(QTR).  I
> print a good bit but to keep 2 Epson printers going (for me that 
seems to
> mean printing a fair amount--which has kept my printers pretty much 
clog
> free) may mean more printing that I'm doing at present--and backup 
of more
> inks than I want to do.
> 
> As far as printing on the wrong side--I've done that in the past 
LOL--Velvet
> is one of the hardest to discern for me (probably), so I'm very 
careful how
> I remove the paper from the pack.  EEM is one of the easier papers 
to
> tell--but I get your point about printing on a coated and non-
coated paper.
> 
> Thanks for your input--this list is always worthwhile for the good 
info.  I
> change my email preferences off and on since its often quite busy 
and when
> I'm not getting single emails or digest, forget to read daily and 
lose
> track--altho' recent reading is what brought my attention to QTR..
> 
> Diane
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Scott Graham
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:49 AM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR surprises....
> 
> 
> 
>   To address just one of your points:
> 
>   all inkjet paper is coated.  Only printing on a watercolor paper 
(i.e.
> blotter actually used for
>   watercolor) will avoid a coating.  We commonly call "nice art 
papers"
> watercolor paper but
>   they aren't literally.
> 
>   and coatings certainly make a difference: color of the coating is 
the
> obvious, but the way
>   they absorb (or not) various inks, etc.
> 
>   To demo that, when your EEM comes in, print a test on the front, 
and then
> one on the
>   back (uncoated and diff color) of a sheet.  What a difference, 
and if you
> it withour realizing
>   it like I did once, what confusion  :)
> 
>   Scott
> 
> 
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