I concur with what has already been said, but would like to add that the image quality just is not as good. I used Impresa 50 for a couple of years, thinking that the ability to do variable filtration in the computer would add more than the disadvantages took away. After that extended experiment, I went back to B&W film. With respect to image quality, the real reduction in quality occurs when you "filter" the image. If you think about it, the only way the individual color layers can be exposed by just using a small part of the spectrum is if those individual layers are much "faster" relative to B&W film of the same nominal speed. When the color film is un-filtered, the various emulsions' dye clouds act as multi-sampling the even out some of the grain (noise). But, when you want that nice dark, red-filtered sky, and use only the red-sensitive layer, what you thought of as slow, fine-grained film looks more like 400 speed film. So, for me, the image quality just was not there, and the usefulness of multi-filtering (red for the sky, green for selected foliage, for example) did not off-set the quality loss. Then there is my psychological problem -- I can't resist the pretty colors if I have color film in the camera, and those shots usually make bad B&W prints. I shall remain a purist B&W guy as long as possible. Paul www.PaulRoark.com _____________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Scott Graham [mailto:gebilwil@...] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:03 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] color film for B&W? Hi Does anyone out there regularly (mainly) use color film to produce gallery quality fine art B&W prints? If so, two questions: 1. what kind of film and why? 2. what disadvantages do you find? as a standard of comparison, I am currently using Plus X. For samples of my work see www.sgraham.com. I am also familar with many reasons for using color film for B&W (in the digital age), but not potential disadvantages. Thanks Scott Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] color film for B&W?
2005-03-06 by Paul Roark
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