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RE: [Digital BW] Moab Kokopelli Photo Gloss Paper & Epson 2200

2005-03-15 by Richard Wolfson

Owen, have you tried emailing Greg Schern at Moab?

Richard Wolfson
Photographer, Printmaker, & Digital Imaging Consultant

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owen P. Evans [mailto:owenpevans@...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:53 AM
> To: B&W The Print
> Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Kokopelli Photo Gloss Paper & Epson 2200
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Since this paper got a rave review in the Photoshop magazine 
> from NAPP, I thought it would be worth trying.
> I ordered and received some 8.5 x 11 sheets of the Moab, 
> Kokopelli Photo Gloss Paper (KPGP) from Inkjet Goodies.
> I downloaded and installed the icm file for my 2200 and 
> proceeded to set-up Photoshop CS so as to print a colour 8 x 10.
> As the print emerged, I could see a very stunning photo 
> developing. Alas, not all went well hereafter.
> First of all, compared to my usual glossy paper from Tetenal; 
> Ilford and Epson; the KPGP offered deeper, richer colour and 
> saturation was outstanding. This paper was winning hands down 
> over all my previous prints of a test photo I made years ago. 
> I was salivating to produce some B&W prints.This never happened.
> The KPGP would not finish in the 2200. That is to say, an 8 x 
> 10 printed to about 8 x 9.8 inches and then the paper shifted 
> in the printer thus causing the last 0.2 inches to smear and 
> print incorrectly.
> I tried several settings, no help. I went back to my regular 
> paper with no problems at all??
> I contacted Inkjet Goodies and Moab with this information:
> 
> "At the end of the print, the paper shifts and a couple of 
> black lines come out on each print. It appears that the paper 
> is not remaining still while the last two passes of the 
> printhead occur. I repeated the effort with different images; 
> with hi-speed on and off; with perceptual and saturation 
> settings and the song remains the same! I went back and 
> printed the images with Tetenal (163 lb. paper ) and  Ilford 
> and no problems. I went through every diagnostic; the 2200 is 
>  perfect. "
> 
> and this is the advice that they gave me:
> 
> "We have consulted with the makers of Moab Paper for a 
> solution to the problem you are experiencing.  It's possible 
> that the kokopelli papers are not as flat as the others, so 
> while it's exiting the printer, it may be putting an upward 
> pressure on the last few centimetres.  This would cause the 
> paper to catch any ink that may have accumulated under the 
> print carriage.  The best way to solve this is to raise the 
> catching tray a few inches.  You can either hold it, or put 
> something under the paper tray that will lift it at least 4-6 
> inches.  The only other possible solution is that you are 
> printing borderless, and in that case it may also be catching 
> the printhead while it's moving back and forth.  If this is 
> the case there may not be anything you can do other than not 
> printing borderless.  Please let us know if you have any 
> further questions, thanks! "
> 
> 
> Well, I tried what they said and to no avail. I was not 
> printing borderless prints. I told them and no response for a 
> couple of weeks now.
> 
> After 10-15 wasted sheets, I gave up and went back to my 
> normal workflow & materials. I never got a complete print!! 
> And, I gave the paper to a friend who has an Canon printer. 
> If he has more success than I, I'll let everyone know. As for 
> you other 2200 users who may be contemplating the use of 
> KPGP; good luck!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Owen Evans
> J.33.3
> 
> " Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick 
> themselves up and continue as if nothing had happened."
> --Winston Churchill-- 
> 
>

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