Digital BW, The Print

I don't know for sure...but I would guess that Apple will discontinue the
G4's when the G5's ship.  It would make sense if they then put the G4 chip
in iMac's.  Honestly, from what I hear about the G5 true 64bit performance
is that it will blaze in comparison to any G4 currently shipping...thus...I
think the best move would be to either:

1)  Buy a dual processor G4 when they go on clearance, or
2)  Buy an entry level G5

One possible issue with going with the G5's may be needing to buy all new
RAM...my guess is that they will use a new technology chip...if you have
1.5Gb of RAM like me...that might be a selling point for Option #1...where
as long as your RAM is 133mHz...you are in business.

The next huge performance boost for mac users will be when the G5's ship,
coupled with a OSX native Photoshop version...which I understand will be in
the spring.

Robert

On 11/23/01 11:43 AM, "ternahan" <ternahan@...> wrote:

> I'm using a G3 Blue and white with 2 SCSI hard drives...it's fast compared
> with a PC...but the duals are expensive++++...maybe I should wait til the
> G5's are out and the G4 price will drop?
> 
>> From: Robert Morrison <rmorrison@...>
>> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:17:00 -0800
>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] dual mac.
>> 
>> I have a relatively old (now) dual 450 G4 which is much faster at photoshop
>> than any PC I've worked with.  I haven't installed OSX on this machine
>> yet...but I understand that there are huge performance advantages to be had
>> on the dual processor machines because of the true multitasking in OSX. The
>> G5's will be the ultimate wintel slayers...because of true 64bit
>> architecture.  Coupled with OSX there is no reason to use a wintel machine
>> if you are in graphics or music intensive industries anymore...that
>> is...unless you want to use Cone's RIP.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> On 11/21/01 1:00 PM, "JackG" <jackg@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Trish,
>>> I have been very pleased with it, my first G-4 did not have it, but I'm not
>>> sure I can tell a difference because I have always been a PC person until I
>>> started using photoshop last year. I have photoshop on the PC but I have
>>> never used it.
>>> A friend of mine who is tutoring me on photoshop says the G-4's are so much
>>> faster that it is no comparison to what she had been using in the past.
>>> 
>>> John in OKC
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "ternahan" <ternahan@...>
>>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 1:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] For Steadman/To Piezo or Not to Piezo...that isa
>>> question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> | Jack,
>>> |
>>> | How do you like the G-4 dual?
>>> |
>>> | TIA,
>>> | trish
>>> |
>>> | > From: "JackG" <jackg@...>
>>> | > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>>> | > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:27:57 -0600
>>> | > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> | > Subject: [Digital BW] For Steadman/To Piezo or Not to Piezo...that is a
>>> | > question.
>>> | >
>>> | > Good Morning Steadman,
>>> | >
>>> | > If you are in the USA, have a happy Thanksgiving, if not, have a great
>>> | > weekend.
>>> | >
>>> | > After Christmas I will have the time to start experimenting with the
>>> digital
>>> | > B & W process.
>>> | >
>>> | > For photoshop6.1 only, I am using a  dual Mac G-4 with one gig of ram,
>>> | > Polaroid SS4000 film scanner, Microtek Scanmaster 4 flatbed, Yamaha CD
>>> | > burner, Wacom tablet and an Epson 1270 for a printer using their inks. I
>>> use
>>> | > Hasselblad for work and a Nikon F5 plus an 8008s for vacations.
>>> | >
>>> | > Would you have a ball park figure as to what you think it would cost to
>>> set
>>> | > up a system for making the Piezo prints?
>>> | >
>>> | > As you can see I do not have a system to calibrate the above and I get
>>> the
>>> | > impression that this would be important to do. What equipment do you
>>> | > recommend? I want to keep using the 1270 for Epson Inks.
>>> | >
>>> | > I have been following, or that is trying to follow this list for some
>>> time
>>> | > and I am still confused about a lot of things. For instance, as a simple
>>> | > question, I still haven't figured out what OEM actually means. I guess
>>> it is
>>> | > the actual inks from Epson.
>>> | >
>>> | > Thanks,
>>> | >
>>> | > John in OKC
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > <BIG SNIP>
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | >
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