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[Digital BW] Re: QTR printing a line near edge of sheet

2005-03-19 by Roy Harrington

Thanks, Frank.
I was able to duplicate it.  I've fixed it for next release.
Keeping the image smaller than the print area will avoid
the problem.

Roy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" <fh.gross@s...> 
wrote:
> 
> Roy,
> Email on it's way with log file.
> The problem is avoided by following the advice here and not printing 
> a file with the same dimensions as the paper sheet.
> Frank
> > 
> > Hi Frank,
> > 
> > As several people already have said, QTR does not do borderless so 
> you can't
> > print an 8.5x11 image on 8.5x11 paper.  QTRgui should be telling 
> you this
> > saying image does not fit.  Most printers have a 1/8 inch margin 
> all around, but
> > Pro printers have a .55 in bottom margin.   It's best to NOT put 
> borders on
> > your images in Photoshop, use the positioning in QTRgui to put the 
> borders
> > you want.
> > 
> > Despite all this, QTR should truncate the image not print a line at 
> the edge.
> > So after doing the clean out and installing 2.2a if you still get 
> the problem
> > could you send me the log files in \Program Files\QuadToneRIP ?
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" 
> <fh.gross@s...> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > thanks Diane - i'm going to work on all the suggestions you and 
> David 
> > > posted.
> > > Frank
> > > btw- you did notice an earlier post from Roy saying it was a bug 
> he 
> > > thought was fixed
> > > ==============================
> > > > It appears to me that you can't print borderless with QTR--but 
> you 
> > > certainly can print within the confines of the print area of the 
> > > paper (I'm also not sure if you can 'minimize margins' with QTR 
> since 
> > > you don't have access to the driver--or at least I haven't 
> figured 
> > > that out).   If you want to print borderless (because that is 
> what 
> > > you are basically wanting to do)  I would guess that you will 
> have 
> > > to 'trick' QTR--IOW, go to custom, make your paper size larger 
> than 
> > > 8.5 x 11 and then choose centered--try that.  I prefer a white 
> border 
> > > around my prints and don't print borderless.(It also makes a mess 
> > > with your ink surplus after awhile I believe--though I could be 
> wrong-
> > > -just an assumption since the printer has to go from edge to edge-
> -
> > > and there will be some slopover or ink I would think).
> > > > 
> > > > Just checked help---select 'placement'  and read what it 
> > > says:      "The Placement panel lets you select Centered or 
> specify 
> > > the placement of the top left corner of the image. You can also 
> use 
> > > the mouse to drag the image icon into a new position if Centered 
> is 
> > > not checked. (Note: QuadToneRIP printing models specify minimum 
> > > margins depending on the printer. QTRgui will reset any margins 
> that 
> > > are less than the minimum or greater than the maximum allowed 
> > > margin.) Next to the placement panel is the Scale panel . 
> Checking To 
> > > Fit will size the image to fit into the printable area of the 
> page. 
> > > Alternatively, you can also specify  a scale factor for the 
> image." 
> > > > 
> > > > Hope this is helpful.
> > > > 
> > > > Diane
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: David Lee 
> > > >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> > > >   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:57 PM
> > > >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR printing a line near edge 
> of 
> > > sheet
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   >How does a small 5x5 inch image placed in the centre of a 
> white
> > > >   >8.5x11 inch sheet extend over the printable area of the 
> paper?
> > > > 
> > > >   How or why it does this I have no idea. All I know is that it 
> has 
> > > happened 
> > > >   to me twice and each time I cropped some white off until the 
> > > image file was 
> > > >   smaller than the printable area and it worked fine.
> > > > 
> > > >   >Even if QTR interprets the entire 8.5x11 file as having 
> printable
> > > >   >information it should see the 1.75 inches on the sides of 
> the 
> > > image
> > > >   >as 'white' or 'nothing to print' and not print a dark line 
> down 
> > > the
> > > >   >side of the sheet - surely ?
> > > > 
> > > >   You'll have to ask Roy about the "why."
> > > > 
> > > >   >Or am I not understanding your solution/workaround?
> > > >   >Should I be going back to PS and 'cropping'/'removing' the 
> white
> > > >   >background from the perimeter of the file?
> > > > 
> > > >   That's what I did.
> > > > 
> > > >   >What do you do if you want to print full width or length of 
> a 
> > > sheet
> > > >   >size?
> > > > 
> > > >   Don't know.
> > > > 
> > > >   David Lee
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > 
======================================================
> > ====
> > > >   > This has also happened to me, but only when I print an 
> image 
> > > that
> > > >   extends
> > > >   > over the printable areas of the paper, just as you printed 
> an 
> > > image
> > > >   file
> > > >   > with a size of 8.5 x 11 on the same size paper. I simply 
> cropped
> > > >   some of the
> > > >   > (white) edge from the file and printed it again. This time 
> no 
> > > line.
> > > >   >
> > > >   > By the way, this is my first posting in a long time and I 
> just 
> > > want
> > > >   to say
> > > >   > what a great program QTR is. (I'm printing with an Epson 
> 2200 
> > > and
> > > >   > Ultrachrome inks.) If I had had it three years ago it would 
> have
> > > >   saved me a
> > > >   > lot of trouble.
> > > >   >
> > > >   > David Lee
> > > >   >
> > > >   > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   > From: "frankg_photo" <fh.gross@s...>
> > > >   > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > >   > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 4:48 PM
> > > >   > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR printing a line near edge of 
> sheet
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   > Got 2.2 installed now - first print coming through and it's 
> > > still
> > > >   > printing the thin line 1/8 from the paper edge.
> > > >   >
> > > >   > I dont get this when I do a col print via the epson driver.
> > > >   >
> > > >   > >
> > > >   
> > > 
> > 
======================================================
> > ==============
> > > >   > > > Frank,
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > It sounds like a bug that was fixed awhile ago.  You 
> should
> > > >   > > > run the latest version 2.2a
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > Roy
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