Digital BW, The Print

Hi John,

I guess I should have been a bit more specific about what inks we're 
using in which printers -- I didn't mean to be misleading...

The 9600 runs on a steady diet of UltraChromes as it is used 
primarily for outputing color canvas and color on fine art papers. 
Since I also have IP and a license for the 9600, it is also used for 
some B&W output on fine art papers -- usually low-key portraiture.

The 9000 runs CN Piezotones and the 7000 runs WN Piezotones. I have 
never had a head clogging problem with any of my wide format systems, 
and the Piezotones have been stellar in that respect (as have the UCs 
in the 9600). I purchased an inventory of Piezotones from a private 
party a while ago, so I haven't switched out either of those printers 
to MIS inks. However, I just bought an MIS CIS system for the 7000, 
and when my stock of WN Piezotones is gone I will be filling it with 
MIS UT2 inks.

My experience with the MIS UT/UT-2 inks on the 3000, 1280 and 1160 
has been excellent. I don't use the 3000 much any more, but the 1280 
and 1160 are still favorites when it comes to sheet feeding multiple 
prints and fine-art cards, and with the results I get it seems so 
much more economical to continue using these machines then firing up 
a wide-format printer for something smaller. Also, being able to 
sheet feed smaller papers saves a lot of cutting of ganged images.

My 2200 is also running UltraChromes, though I have used MIS Eboni K 
carts for black-only printing. I also have an IP Lite version for the 
2200 that I purchased before the QTR and IJC/OPM RIPs were released 
for the PC, so it also does some duty as a B&W machine particularly 
for toned output.

So, that's a long answer to a short question, John. I try not to fill 
carts on any machines, so on the 3000, 7000 and 9000 I always use 
220ml universal carts. CIS on the desktops, and the one exception is 
the 2200 -- but if that stays in the print mix I'll assuredly convert 
it to an IR Damper feed system and just purchase 10600 UC carts to 
feed it with (I'm trying really hard not to succomb to my urge to 
pick up a 4000 and if I do, I know I'll have to thin out my "printer 
farm" a bit and the 2200 will probably retire ;>))

Lastly, I've driven the 9600 and 2200 with my own profiles for color, 
and used IP (and recently a very successful trial of QTR) for UC B&W 
so I'll probably purchase QTR now that the profiling/linearization 
package is evolving for the PC -- it also does very well with the MIS 
UT2 inks...

Hope you reached a decision on what to feed your 10K in the next ink 
changeover, and hope that Jan helped with the CP questions.

All the best, John!

Richard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> Personally, we use IP, Cone Piezotones, MIS inks (with RIPs and
> curves) and print on 9600, 7000/9000, 2200 and desktop printers. Are
> there differences? Definitely. Is there a simple, objective
> quantification of that difference? I don't think so, but 
subjectively
> I would say there is a certain beauty to the subtle tonalities of 
the
> quadtone print that are unique. However, the UltraChromes have 
proven
> their commercial and collectible value on all fronts, so this really
> becomes a personal matter of choice for you.
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> 
> 
> Richard, Do you use MIS pigments in the 9600 and 9000 with a cf 
system, or fill 
> carts?
> 
> 
> John