As someone who develops websites for a living, here's a couple of thoughts.
Forums can be successful when they do what they are supposed to - enable and
facilitate discussion about topics of mutual interest. Forum software can
also disseminate information as email and digests if required (depends on
the software). If people mainly prefer email, then possibly a mailing list
would be a better solution. Products like Mailman provide email delivery,
but also archiving and searching facilities.
However in making a decision about this, it appears to me that there are
several fundamental uses of the current forum which may not fit snugly in
one solution
a) Notification of new products, ideas, discoveries etc (In my view
one of the most useful)
b) Requests for help, or opinions (support)
c) Knowledge base type information. (How to's etc)
d) Ranting and raving
It could be that you need a fully tailored website to cater adequately for
all of these, but I guess questions of ownership, who gets to make the
decisions, administration and costs are likely to render this a non-starter.
In any case - a solution should try and adequately address all the current
users requirements, especially given the amount of help and assistance that
many of them provide
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From: Diane Fields [mailto:picnic@...]
Sent: 26 March 2005 20:57
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Will this forum ever get streamlined?
Bob,
I had not thought of that--I agree--I read several forums, but never all the
threads by a long shot and email is much more convenient for this group for
myself. I think the main thing that is difiicult with the yahoogroups is a
searchable database. I have unsubbed and resubbed over a period of time and
always try to search for some particular things when I resub--and find it
very difficult.
Diane
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Frost
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Will this forum ever get streamlined?
Stephen,
Personally I hate forums! You never know what might be useful info until
you
scan the post. Titles are often totally irrelevant. It is so easy to
receive
the emails, quickly scan them or carefully read those that seem
interesting,
delete those that are not, and keep those that are.
So if you want to get rid of me, just switch to a forum format. To scan
all
the posts in a forum for useful info would take an eternity!
Bob Frost.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Veillette" <stephen@...>
Regarding your concerns, Walker, I think any serious discussion of moving
this group
would need to involve a polling of current membership to see which way to
proceed-- stay
or leave. Any ideas that I've been floating are just an attempt to
brainstorm solutions to
the problems and concerns that others have with this forum (which I also
share).
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RE: [Digital BW] Will this forum ever get streamlined?
2005-03-27 by Richard