Hear, hear! I shot almost nothing but Tri-X in the '70s and kept banging my head against the wall whenever I enlarged to 16x20. I was not into grain. What I really should have been using was an 8x10, which I eventually picked up. However, in hind sight, the grainy quality of those Tri-X images has turned out to be part of the charm. If you scan Tri-X and attempt to make it look like T-Max or better, you will need to enlarge those scans on screen and blur out every piece of grain manually...not recommended for the faint of heart. My film scanner has the ability to set a negative USM value (-60 out of ±255 is recommended) and also allows for defocusing the lens (it's an Imacon Flextight II) by a tiny amount, and between these two settings I can minimize the grain to some extent without losing sharpness discernably. There's even a proprietary noise option that tends to smooth out clumping in the grain if used properly. Then USM in Photoshop seems to take up the slack. But in the long run, the question really is why? Grain is in our heritage, like monotypes, glass negatives, etc. Just because a great digital camera can be set to avoid generating noise does not mean that our B&W history should be re-written. I always shot my Tri-X at ASA200 AND overdeveloped the film, after I realized the grain was truly a wondrous feature. One of the best rolls I ever shot was left in overheated developer by mistake, looked nearly solid black, made for very long exposure times under the enlarger, and produced some wedding shots that drove my brother in law nuts with delight! So I left the Plus-X for the 8x10, and got to have whichever effect I wanted without bruising my head anymore. BTW, does anyone have a great method for scanning 8x10 negs on a flatbed? I use the Linotype-Hell Ultra Saphir 2 with Silverfast AI 6, but there seems to be a problem with horizontal banding (or even thin lines) when I try this (I'm at novice level with this software, to make things worse). My Imacon, unfortunately, goes up only to 4x5. I couldn't afford the big one that handles 8x10. For now, I have been sending out my 8x10s for drum scans, which is fine but expensive. Any advice...I think I saw some ideas about wet-mounting...would be appreciated. I am wondering if the banding is indicative of poor or out of adjustment mechanics in the transparency adapter because it never happens with reflective art. ;-) Gary > Message: 18 > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:14:40 -0700 > From: "Mike Johnston" <wpajohnson@qwest.net> > Subject: RE: Really Grainy Tri X scans > > > You could treat the quality as a feature instead of a problem. > Mike J.
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Re: Tri-X's grainy scans
2005-03-30 by Gary Barnett
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