Digital BW, The Print

Paul,
I have a question in regard to the lack of folks coming up with new
paper curve/profiles to go with your curves. Please bear with me and
ask if I don't explain it sufficiently to make sense.
I am curious to know why a simple density curve applied prior to using
your printing curves wouldn't easily set a picture up for a given
paper. It's been my experience that the primary differences (ignoring
the cooler/warmer tone aspects) is in what would have been termed
contrast for wet process papers along with possible blocking up of
some lower values. As I understand it, you have a curve set for
printing EEM at the least in every workflow. If one prints your 21step
scale on EEM as a visual in hand reference, all of the tonal
relationships are there and known. It should be no pain to print the
steps on a new paper and apply an 's' curve &/or bump up the lower
values a bit to get separation to match the EEM print.

Along with that I assume that to your partitioning curves a 50%
density value is always the same 50% as is a 10% a 10% etc etc and
give the same ink outputs for a given inkset no matter what it is
printed on. If this is the case I would think that anyone who knows
enough to work up a photograph to begin with can do the paper curve.
Am I making the wrong assumption?

Thanks.
Duane

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> 
> MIS's business model is to just sell the inks people want, and then the
> customers are on their own.  I make Photoshop curves available to
all, and
> MIS distributes them also, but if there is a paper that I have not
profiled
> with a curve, you're going to have to see which curve works best and
modify
> it yourself.  With the UT2 & 7 inksets many papers also print fine
with just
> some Epson driver slider adjustments, which is the easiest workflow.
> However, the most control is gained with the use of curves or a rip
like QTR
> or IJC.  Many on this list use QTR with MIS inks and also have curves.
> These can often be linearized for a new paper and work fine.
>
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert [mailto:la_native@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:22 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Basics on B&W Inks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've been perusing this forum for over a year, and I've seen literally
> > hundreds of posts about various B&W inkset options for Epson printers.
> >  I have a 2200 and I'm considering MIS' UT7 carbon inks.
> > 
> > Before taking the plunge, I'd like to become more knowledgeable on the
> > subject.  Is there a website or a link that discusses the various
> > options that are out there, with pros and cons of each manufacturer?
> > 
> > Finally, has there been any kind of concensus on this board as to
> > which inksets work the best?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Robert Ades
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