Digital BW, The Print

Personally, one of the few high-end rag papers that I haven't tried is the Mohab
rag .From what I can remember people saying on this list, Mahab had very good
dmax and tonal qualities but scuffs and flakes easily, in the blacks especially.
Others can comment on this.

I know an artist in Ny who does contemporary photogravures from a traditionally
run studio in Mass. Her work is really unphotographic and extremely flat and
softand is closer to gum prints or van dyke brown prints than modern photographic
processes.

If you really want to achive that look I would suggest printing with one of the
Ultrachrome type printers or using quad set and outputting onto uncoated rag
paper, like Arches Cover or Reves BFK or something like that. I know an
illustrator here in Atlanta who scans her illustrations and prints out of a 2200 on 
uncoated

Arches and this work is very nice, soft and smooth, but not what I would call
muddy with undefined contours. There is a lot you can do that way, even with
photographs. I think I could fake a Stieglitz gravure with the right paper and the right
inkload.

With the Innova papers apparently the deal is that they are double coated,
giving them much greater durability and avoiding that really tender surface so
common with papers like Hahnemuhle, Lumijet, and Lyson.

As to the surface look they are very similar to Hahnemuhle Photo Rag and German
Etching. The more texture the paper has the more it looks like old printmaking
processes in my opinon. I just did a job on H. William Turner with a monochrome
hue warm neutral and laid down with lot of very dense black. The originals were
scanned from 8x10 paper negatives. This paper soaked it up like no other paper I
use. The Innova papers are very similar but some what less textured than W
Turner. The softness is determined by how you design your file and how much ink 
you lay down in the shadow end. Turner has to be sprayed unless your gonna stick 
it right behind glass. Its tender too. 


John




>
> Has anyone had a chance to make a compairison to the Mohab
> papers. I'm using the Entrada Natural and like it although at times I
> get a feeling that the image is on top of the paper instead if in the
> paper. Does the Innova paper feel as though the ink is in the paper,
> more like a photogravure.
>
> John H