Digital BW, The Print

Now you've gotten me really depressed.

But I have talked with two guys who use the Lyson Cave Paints in the chipped carts 
for the 10K and think it was the greatest thing they ever did. Their gamut and 
workflow improved dramaticly. I'm so confused I don't know what to do, so I'll stay 
put until this summer until I can do more research I guess. There was something 
that Epson did when they were retrofitting these machines to UC for a short period 
and it had to do with ink load firm ware changes. It could very well be that Studio 
Print would be the ultimate solution. That is what I suspect. This is such a great 
machine. Then I have to spend more money on the rip and a pc. When will it ever 
end? 

Thanks for your experience,

John 



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting" <
dfaprinting@y...> wrote:
> 
> The ink carts on this printer are the same as the 9500 (and or bigger 
> 500ml) right? If so that means no ink chips, and attaching bottles to 
> the internal ink lines should be a snap.
> 
> Those G-Chrome inks may seem very tempting, but I would hesitate to 
> suggest them. I ran those for a while too. The G4 worked better and 
> gave less banding in the blacks and full cyan, and full magenta. 
> Switching over the the Image Specialists inks was even better after 
> the G4 inks completely clogged one of my dampers, partial on a couple 
> others. It was the strangest thing, I was running low, so ordered 
> some more ink, and the yellow got low enough to add, same with black. 
> I made a couple of prints, and started a larger print... about 
> halfway through the yellow completely stopped! One pass it worked, 
> the next pass it didn't, looked like a switch had been changed to 
> turn off the yellow ink. Happened about when the new batch of ink had 
> finaly reached the heads. After I got the run around from support, 
> including sending the "defective" ink back to them, they said it was 
> fine and they were testing it in their 3000 that prints the packing 
> lists in shipping. Now here is the best part, I have several of those 
> packing slips that obviously have a serious headclog! In short I just 
> do not trust them to do the right thing, cost me alot for repair and 
> wasted media. Also as far as I know, the G-Chrome matte black is the 
> same dye/pigment as their other matte black inks, that means you will 
> still have water issues, and may have the same scuffing that you have 
> now.
> 
> This new ink should have a much larger gamut, but it is designed for 
> the Ultrachrome printers, and I'm having a hard time getting the ink 
> limits low enough to give me that gamut. Since your 10K used the same 
> Archival inks as my 9500, I don't know if this would be a good 
> suggestion. They flow through my CIS and the printer great, but too 
> much is still getting onto the paper, might be time to try some of 
> those demos for a new RIP to see if I can find something that will 
> work. Or I just go back to the other inks with a lower pigment load, 
> they give me about equal to UC inks on most papers (comparing 
> profiles).
> 
> Those see through carts for the big printers seem like a bad idea to 
> me. It seems that it would have all the disadvantages of a bottle 
> system, and you still need to remove them from the printer to fill 
> them. I think the foil bag was there to keep the pressure at a 
> constant amount from beginning to end, the clear carts will vary from 
> full to empty and may effect your output. I'm just guessing about 
> that, but might be something to think about.