Reading this entire thread I just can't help but wonder how Weston got by with just three trays and a light blub. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote: > $50 is all you need spend. QTR is really very good at what it does. You > just need to understand how to use it best. Here's the longer answer. > > First understand that you can't, generally speaking, print as dark as you > can see on screen and that paper isn't generally as white. That is, the > dynamic range of today's paper with today's inks is relatively narrow. Not > bad but narrow. OK that first bit was easy. > > Now QTR is set up to print an even gradation L* (Lab's L) from its darkest > black to paper white. If it could generate perfect black and perfect white > then you could print the Lab space in totality with an even gradation of L* > and have a nice "gamma" or curvature in density from pure black to pure > white. But as noted above we can't get perfect black or perfect white. If > the best black is really "light black" and the best white is "almost white" > and there is still a straight line of L* between the two then the gamma or > contrast must be less. Hence, out-of-the-box the prints look a little > "flat" because the black isn't as good as on screen and the gamma or > contrast is less. > > OK so what do we do about it? Two solutions. First, we could introduce an > arbitrary S curve to increase image contrast so that when it is printed we > have a better look. Secondly, we could use some of the tools available to us > to do that for us. In either case, it is useful to see before we print the > result of either action. > > The second of the two is more effective, easier and more readily previewed > or soft proofed. Roy has designed two ICC profiles, QTR Gray Matte Paper > and QTR Gray Photo Paper, which are in essence general profiles for the two > types of media we print to. With these you can use two Photoshop's ability > to convert between ICC profiles and to preview a file in another colour > space. So at the time of printing you can use Photoshop to convert your > image to the print space using the perceptual intent and black point > compensation. This in effect automates the s curve piece. Furthermore, > prior to printing you can preview how the file will look once converted to > the print space (matte or photo), ie see how it will look when printed. Use > View -> Proof Setup -> Custom to set up the soft proof. Convert the > document to the print space prior to printing (save a preprint master > first!). The workflow for last bit is slightly different depending on > whether you are on a Mac or PC. > > The ICC profiles can be found here: > > http://homepage.mac.com/royharrington/FileSharing2.html > > under grayspaceXYZv2.zip > > Steve > > > > > > From: Diane Fields <picnic@c...> > > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:38:47 -0400 > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Best Rip for 2200 > > > > > > Have you tried softproofing in PS and adjusting tonality/contrast? > > > > Diane > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: glovinger > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:12 AM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Best Rip for 2200 > > > > > > > > > > I installed the QTR rip yesterday for my Epson 2200 and made several > > test prints. So far I like the color tones, but I am very unhappy > > with the flatness of my prints. I actually prefer the green colorcast I > > get without the rip because of the wonderful detail and subtle tones > > the printer can produce. > > What do you all consider the best rip on the market for the 2200? I > > guess I need to spend more than $50.- to get the best of both worlds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. 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Re: [Digital BW] Best Rip for 2200
2005-04-16 by outlaw07480
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