Digital BW, The Print

Scott, thanks for the tips on 'bronzing'.  That'll help.
Someone else has suggested buying some Print Shield spray. I should 
look into that.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Graham" 
<gebilwil@n...> wrote:
> 
> Just deleted my original post and am reposting
> 
> because I notice that I am RANTING  :)  and want to apologize  
SORRY
> 
> ******
> 
> But
> 
> I think that he is narrow minded and out of touch with reality.
> 
> Doesn't mean that he isn't smart, artistic with good taste, a 
great guy, etc.  That is a 
> different subject.
> 
> :)
> 
> I admit that when I switched to digital printing that I hesitated 
on matte paper,
> 
> but the prints AND BLACKS are superior to Illford silver gelatin 
fiber based paper and they 
> look great. Better than FINE darkroom prints.  Wasn't easy to get 
there though.
> 
> The last techno oriented comment I had is that "They CAN"T be 
inkjet".
> 
> HA!
> 
> bronzing? don't use glossy paper---it never looked very good 
anyway, though air dried
> was fine.
> 
> Incidentally, air dried Illford silver gelatin paper (was it 
glossy or pearl???) has bronzing 
> too---just look at it at a high angle (i.e. looking for bronzing 
not admiring it)  Or would 
> we call it an embossed look, or?
> 
> bronzing? frame them behind glass. It is a total non issue except 
to people hoping to find 
> fault. Yes, I've done it too---peered very closely to see if there 
were dots, or this or that.
> 
> Framing behind glass also makes them "look glossy"; well sort of. 
You can't tell the 
> difference I think except that there are no annoying reflections 
from a glossy surface. 
> (same for semigloss, reflections I mean)
> 
> Incidentally, only photographers use glossy paper, not fine 
artist's from other mediums
> (oil, watercolor, ink, charcoal, pastel, etc).
> 
> Scott
> 
> But,--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "SteveZ" 
<blizzie12@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Today I met with an old associate of mine, he owns a local 
framing 
> > store, but his specialty is fine art photography and 
portraiture.  
> >> 
> > I had him look at some of my digital b&w prints done on EEM 
paper 
> > with my 2200, and he was impressed, except for one thing:  
> > 
> > "No Glossy Paper."
> > 
> > I suppose in his mind, a black and white print does not have 
much 
> > 
> > What are your opinions about using glossy media for fine art 
prints?
> > 
> > What about the "bronzing" issue? How do I overcome this
> > problem?
> > 
> > Please speak your minds.