Very depressing, isn't it? Can anyone recommend a desert island with electricity? Mark look_ma_no_hands_giclees.com On Apr 21, 2005, at 3:56 PM, koloshor wrote: > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" > <tyler@t...> wrote: > > > > I wouldn't join it even though I suppose that's what I do, just > > because the word is proudly used by it. > > It's like the "fimo" or "sculpy" artists who insist on calling it > "polymer clay" or "low fired clay". They turn colors when you call it > "plastic". > > > Giclees have been given a bad name by a soap opera past, way too > many > > bad shops, editions made in the thousands that won't last a decade, > > not to mention that the name is poorly chosen and displays a lack of > > cultural sensitivety. It's stupid, like walking around with and > > "idiot" sign someone taped to your back, but somehow proud of it. > > I would go anywhere near it. > > It's getting worse. Epson has trademarked "Ultra Giclee". Now, there's > a porn star name. ;) > > Staples Fine Art has trademarked "Heritage Giclee". > > There's a "Gicl�e Printer's Association", which appears to be the sole > property of Harald Johnson, who's plugging his book on the front page > of the GPA web site. > > The GPA has two levels of certification (and two trademarks), "Tru > D�cor" and "Tru Gicl�e".�� Most of the materials the GPA recommends > can't actually meet their Tru Gicl�e certification criteria, so I'd > lump them in with the infamous IFPO . You remember them, pay your > membership dues, get a "press pass" that won't actually get you into > anything. > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Great New Group to Join - "Giclee Business 101"
2005-04-21 by Mark Savoia
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