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Re: [Digital BW] Exchange Print Comparisons

2001-12-03 by Todd Flashner

I get these fine white lines and I use the Epson driver, and speaking of
driver, they driver me crazy!

I think it must be some sort of timing error between the head firings and
the transport mechanism. In any case it would appear to be independent of
which driver is used.

They come and go on my machine. Unfortunately they decided to first come as
soon as the warranty expired. :-/

Todd

> Hi Carolyn-
> 
> I too noticed fine white lines on some, but not all, of the the piezo prints
> in the exchange (although I didn't check them with a loupe, just with my
> glasses off at my natural focusing distance (8 inches ;-)).  I generally
> liked the tonal quality and "presence" of the piezo prints, but this did
> trouble me (I couldn't accept it in my own prints.)
> 
> Looking forward to a 7000 some day...
> 
> Bill
> 
> on 12/2/01 6:51 PM, Carolyn  Frayn wrote:
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> I installed the Piezo system on my 1200 this week, after a couple of
> frustrating days with clogs and the banding due to the clogs it is running
> well. My first clog free prints however had a different banding pattern. I
> call this a linear pattern, more than a band. Feeling overly picky about it
> I took out the print exchange package again.
> 
> I went over the print exchange prints again with a loupe. I would like to
> start a conversation about the various types of output I see and perhaps
> have people varify what I'm seeing or tell me where I'm wrong.
> 
> My first clog free piezo print has a linear, soft, fine band throughout all
> tones and the whole print. It travels in the direction of the print head. I
> do not get this banding on prints from this printer with OEM inks.
> 
> Exchange prints:
> 
> I see a similair banding in all prints from the 1160 using the cone driver,
> whether they use cone inks or MIS. I do not see this pattern with the Epson
> driver.
> 
> I see the exact same linear pattern that I get in prints from the 1200 using
> the cone driver, so it is not just my 1200.
> 
> I do not see this pattern in Mike's print from the Pro 7000 using Cone's RIP
> but in this print I see a very very subtle weave pattern (sort of banding in
> both directions but very soft and fine) that I find much nicer than the
> 1200's banding.  
> 
> So is this banding? Is this print head travel? Is this only avoidable if I
> were to go to the 7000 with Cone's Pro RIP?  Or go back to the Epson driver?
> 
> I see no linear pattern in prints using MIS inks and the Epson driver. I see
> very little in the way of dots from 1160's and 1280's using Paul's or Wolf's
> curves but do see dot's in the 3000 prints without the loupe.
> 
> I read somewhere that the software RIP Mike K was talking about is being
> downsized for some of Epson's desktop printers. I wonder if this will help
> for the smaller printers to achive dotless prints without the print head
> pattern.
> 
> I very much like the output from Martin's print, 1280 @ 2880 using MIS  VM.
> But I did not want to play with curves just yet...
> 
> My output from the 2000P while displaying very subtle dots in the
> highlights, does not display any linear pattern at all... One day I hope to
> use this printer for monochromes/duo/tritones with non OEM inks. Darn that
> metamerism! 
> 
> If I migrate the Piezo BW system to a 1280 will this get rid of this wee
> linear pattern (banding) issue?
> 
> Curious,
> Carolyn
> 
> PS:  I do not find this at all objectionable from norman viewing distance...
> and sorry for being so verbous. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
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