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Re: [Digital BW] Exchange Print Comparisons

2001-12-03 by SKID Photography

With the coming and going of this sort of thing....Could it be changes in the electrical current? I have
noticed in our 2000P, that sometimes we get a very strange pattern in plain areas that *almost* looks like
newton rings, but is not.  They come and go mysteriously and I figured it might be an electrical oddity.  We
only have surge protector not a voltage stabilizer.


Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC

Todd Flashner wrote:

> I get these fine white lines and I use the Epson driver, and speaking of
> driver, they driver me crazy!
>
> I think it must be some sort of timing error between the head firings and
> the transport mechanism. In any case it would appear to be independent of
> which driver is used.
>
> They come and go on my machine. Unfortunately they decided to first come as
> soon as the warranty expired. :-/
>
> Todd
>
> > Hi Carolyn-
> >
> > I too noticed fine white lines on some, but not all, of the the piezo prints
> > in the exchange (although I didn't check them with a loupe, just with my
> > glasses off at my natural focusing distance (8 inches ;-)).  I generally
> > liked the tonal quality and "presence" of the piezo prints, but this did
> > trouble me (I couldn't accept it in my own prints.)
> >
> > Looking forward to a 7000 some day...
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > on 12/2/01 6:51 PM, Carolyn  Frayn wrote:
> >
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > I installed the Piezo system on my 1200 this week, after a couple of
> > frustrating days with clogs and the banding due to the clogs it is running
> > well. My first clog free prints however had a different banding pattern. I
> > call this a linear pattern, more than a band. Feeling overly picky about it
> > I took out the print exchange package again.
> >
> > I went over the print exchange prints again with a loupe. I would like to
> > start a conversation about the various types of output I see and perhaps
> > have people varify what I'm seeing or tell me where I'm wrong.
> >
> > My first clog free piezo print has a linear, soft, fine band throughout all
> > tones and the whole print. It travels in the direction of the print head. I
> > do not get this banding on prints from this printer with OEM inks.
> >
> > Exchange prints:
> >
> > I see a similair banding in all prints from the 1160 using the cone driver,
> > whether they use cone inks or MIS. I do not see this pattern with the Epson
> > driver.
> >
> > I see the exact same linear pattern that I get in prints from the 1200 using
> > the cone driver, so it is not just my 1200.
> >
> > I do not see this pattern in Mike's print from the Pro 7000 using Cone's RIP
> > but in this print I see a very very subtle weave pattern (sort of banding in
> > both directions but very soft and fine) that I find much nicer than the
> > 1200's banding.
> >
> > So is this banding? Is this print head travel? Is this only avoidable if I
> > were to go to the 7000 with Cone's Pro RIP?  Or go back to the Epson driver?
> >
> > I see no linear pattern in prints using MIS inks and the Epson driver. I see
> > very little in the way of dots from 1160's and 1280's using Paul's or Wolf's
> > curves but do see dot's in the 3000 prints without the loupe.
> >
> > I read somewhere that the software RIP Mike K was talking about is being
> > downsized for some of Epson's desktop printers. I wonder if this will help
> > for the smaller printers to achive dotless prints without the print head
> > pattern.
> >
> > I very much like the output from Martin's print, 1280 @ 2880 using MIS  VM.
> > But I did not want to play with curves just yet...
> >
> > My output from the 2000P while displaying very subtle dots in the
> > highlights, does not display any linear pattern at all... One day I hope to
> > use this printer for monochromes/duo/tritones with non OEM inks. Darn that
> > metamerism!
> >
> > If I migrate the Piezo BW system to a 1280 will this get rid of this wee
> > linear pattern (banding) issue?
> >
> > Curious,
> > Carolyn
> >
> > PS:  I do not find this at all objectionable from norman viewing distance...
> > and sorry for being so verbous. ;-)
> >
> >
> >


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