Bummer, and I just picked up my first 2200! Scott chipcarterdc wrote: > Here's the text of that message, so that you don't have to join the > Epson 2200 > group to read it: > > "The June issue of Shutterbug magazine, pg159 has a 1/2 page article on > 4 new Epson printers including a replacement for the 2200. They will > have a new 8 color pigment ink set, including photo or matte black, > light black, light light black, plus cyan, magenta, yellow, light cyan > and light magenta. "The claim is that these pigment inks will > significantly improve the printer's gray balance while eliminating > color casts and dramatically reducing metamerism and bronzing." There > will also be a new "advanced black and white print mode". The > replacement for the 2200 is the R2400 and will sell for $849." > > I have several thoughts about this: > > (1) What are the other 3 new printers using the new inkset other than the > R2400? I can see replacements for the 9600 and the 7600, but would the > fourth printer be a replacement for the 4000? > > (2) Notice that it refers to photo OR matte black. That would indicate > that, like > the 2200/7600/9600, and unlike the 4000, R1800 and R800, it can only have > one of these inks loaded at a time. If true, that seems like a silly step > backwards. > > (3) Why would the new printers be designated "Rxxxx" if they're not > using the > R800/1800 inks? > > (4) Doesn't this leave the 4000 as kind of an orphan in the lineup? It > doesn't > fit with the R800/1800, which use the gloss optimizer and red/blue > inks. It > doesn't fit with the 2200/7600/9600, because it can hold photo and matte > black at the same time. And it doesn't fit with the new printers either. > UNLESS, as someone suggested, Epson shows some common sense and > allows use of the new inks and "advanced B&W print mode" in the 4000 by a > firmware/driver update -- since the 4000 already has 8 ink channels, this > would seem sensible unless the new inks require a physically smaller drop > size than the 4000's heads can produce. You would, of course be giving up > the ability to print on glossy or mattte without swapping blacks > (assuming the > Shutterbug article is accurate), which is probably the primary reason > you'd > buy a 4000 instead of the larger 7600. > > Is the June issue of Shutterbug on newstands yet? I'd like to see the > article for > myself. > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Schofield" < > scho@m...> wrote: > > Someone read the shutterbug article: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/epson2200/message/6708 > > Three shades of black and driver control for B&W printing with the 3 > inks. > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting" < > dfaprinting@y...> > > wrote: > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "steve_bye" > > > <steve_bye@c...> wrote: > > > > I put some of the text from Carl's link into a program that > identifies > > > > languages and it chose Croatian or Serbian. Then I used a web page > > > > translator ( > > > > > http://quickfound.net/webdev/language_translation_tools_index.html) > <http://quickfound.net/webdev/language_translation_tools_index.html%29> to > > > > translate the article from both languages to English. The results > > > > demonstrate that computer-generated translation technology has a > ways > > > to go. > > > > > > > > This definately looks like a new line of printers, and they > appear to > > > be > > > > targeting B&W printing with three B&W inks, though it is not > clear if > > > they > > > > are different densities or hues. > > > > > > > > Here is some of the cryptic text. > > > > > > > > > I would be nice if the mixing is controlled in the hardware, and not > > > the driver, but also user adjustable. If not that, then have all > three > > > channels available to a RIP so that you gain back the user adjustment > > > of the mixing. > > > > > > And if that B/W output comes through, can we all say... 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Ultrachrome K3 inks?
2005-04-30 by Scott McLoughlin
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