Digital BW, The Print

Harvey,

I think it just has to do with your proximity to the village.  ;-)

Mike

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography 
<skid@b...> wrote:
> With the coming and going of this sort of thing....Could it be 
changes in the electrical current? I have
> noticed in our 2000P, that sometimes we get a very strange pattern 
in plain areas that *almost* looks like
> newton rings, but is not.  They come and go mysteriously and I 
figured it might be an electrical oddity.  We
> only have surge protector not a voltage stabilizer.
> 
> 
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> 
> Todd Flashner wrote:
> 
> > I get these fine white lines and I use the Epson driver, and 
speaking of
> > driver, they driver me crazy!
> >
> > I think it must be some sort of timing error between the head 
firings and
> > the transport mechanism. In any case it would appear to be 
independent of
> > which driver is used.
> >
> > They come and go on my machine. Unfortunately they decided to 
first come as
> > soon as the warranty expired. :-/
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > > Hi Carolyn-
> > >
> > > I too noticed fine white lines on some, but not all, of the the 
piezo prints
> > > in the exchange (although I didn't check them with a loupe, 
just with my
> > > glasses off at my natural focusing distance (8 inches ;-)).  I 
generally
> > > liked the tonal quality and "presence" of the piezo prints, but 
this did
> > > trouble me (I couldn't accept it in my own prints.)
> > >
> > > Looking forward to a 7000 some day...
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > on 12/2/01 6:51 PM, Carolyn  Frayn wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Group,
> > >
> > > I installed the Piezo system on my 1200 this week, after a 
couple of
> > > frustrating days with clogs and the banding due to the clogs it 
is running
> > > well. My first clog free prints however had a different banding 
pattern. I
> > > call this a linear pattern, more than a band. Feeling overly 
picky about it
> > > I took out the print exchange package again.
> > >
> > > I went over the print exchange prints again with a loupe. I 
would like to
> > > start a conversation about the various types of output I see 
and perhaps
> > > have people varify what I'm seeing or tell me where I'm wrong.
> > >
> > > My first clog free piezo print has a linear, soft, fine band 
throughout all
> > > tones and the whole print. It travels in the direction of the 
print head. I
> > > do not get this banding on prints from this printer with OEM 
inks.
> > >
> > > Exchange prints:
> > >
> > > I see a similair banding in all prints from the 1160 using the 
cone driver,
> > > whether they use cone inks or MIS. I do not see this pattern 
with the Epson
> > > driver.
> > >
> > > I see the exact same linear pattern that I get in prints from 
the 1200 using
> > > the cone driver, so it is not just my 1200.
> > >
> > > I do not see this pattern in Mike's print from the Pro 7000 
using Cone's RIP
> > > but in this print I see a very very subtle weave pattern (sort 
of banding in
> > > both directions but very soft and fine) that I find much nicer 
than the
> > > 1200's banding.
> > >
> > > So is this banding? Is this print head travel? Is this only 
avoidable if I
> > > were to go to the 7000 with Cone's Pro RIP?  Or go back to the 
Epson driver?
> > >
> > > I see no linear pattern in prints using MIS inks and the Epson 
driver. I see
> > > very little in the way of dots from 1160's and 1280's using 
Paul's or Wolf's
> > > curves but do see dot's in the 3000 prints without the loupe.
> > >
> > > I read somewhere that the software RIP Mike K was talking about 
is being
> > > downsized for some of Epson's desktop printers. I wonder if 
this will help
> > > for the smaller printers to achive dotless prints without the 
print head
> > > pattern.
> > >
> > > I very much like the output from Martin's print, 1280 @ 2880 
using MIS  VM.
> > > But I did not want to play with curves just yet...
> > >
> > > My output from the 2000P while displaying very subtle dots in 
the
> > > highlights, does not display any linear pattern at all... One 
day I hope to
> > > use this printer for monochromes/duo/tritones with non OEM 
inks. Darn that
> > > metamerism!
> > >
> > > If I migrate the Piezo BW system to a 1280 will this get rid of 
this wee
> > > linear pattern (banding) issue?
> > >
> > > Curious,
> > > Carolyn
> > >
> > > PS:  I do not find this at all objectionable from norman 
viewing distance...
> > > and sorry for being so verbous. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
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