Digital BW, The Print

hmmmmm....I have a curve from you (i think) for premium semi and glop 
and eboni.....it is only one curve, neutral. I use the 1280, with 
UT2/glop. Tomorrow, after I get the clear carts installed I will mess 
around with some diferent things, like trying the diferent media 
settings on a step wedge etc.......now I wonder where that curve came 
from!
take care, DM
On Apr 30, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Paul Roark wrote:

> Doug,
>
>  I use Epson Premium Semimatte (PSM) with the newer UT inksets (not 
> UT1) and
>  no Glop.� I spray it after I print.� My workflow is just the normal
>  Photoshop RGB curves, Epson driver, with Eboni installed but not 
> used.� The
>  black is generated by the 2 dark gray inks.
>
>  Because PSM was not available in smaller sizes, I have not made many 
> curves
>  for it.� I suppose I should do that now that more people will be 
> cutting it
>  down from 17 x 22.
>
>  What printer and inkset are you using?
>
>  Paul
>  www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m] On Behalf Of 
> Douglas
>  > meeuwsen
>  > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 6:09 PM
>  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  > Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Pr.Semi matte....Roark workflow
>  >
>  > I was at a gallerie yesterday, and the BW darkroom prints looked 
> pretty
>  > good with a very nice surface, and no glass in front. I asked the 
> guy
>  > what kind of paper it was, thinking they may have been ink prints, 
> and
>  > he said "semi-matte, darkroom".....Anyways, I still have not been 
> able
>  > to get the kind of quality that I get from kirkland from my 
> semi-matte
>  > using the curves for ebony and glop. I suspect that it is The media
>  > setting, which I am not sure of. When I use the glossy film setting,
>  > the shadows are kind of posterized, and when I use the premium 
> glossy
>  > setting the ink is way too heavy. I just did a print with premium
>  > semigloss, and it did turn out quite nice. The glop is less 
> effective
>  > with semigloss that it is with kirkland and semi-matte. I do like 
> the
>  > surface of semi the best, and the glop works great on it.
>  >
>  > So I am wondering if I should experiment more with media settings, 
> or
>  > adjust the curves. I almost think that the ilford curves may work
>  > better than the semimatte curve. (accidentally chose the wrong one 
> one
>  > time. It was the ilford carbon curve, looked pretty good, but it 
> was a
>  > diferent image)
>  >
>  > So, Paul, or anyone that may be trying this combo, what do you guys
>  > suggest? I have been doing some experiments jsut trying to drain my
>  > last prefilled glop cart. It is finally empty, so tomorrow I will
>  > attemp switching over to the clear carts. Crossing my fingers!
>  >
>  > as Usual, all info is much appreciated,
>  >
>  > Doug M
>  >
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