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[Digital BW] Re: QTR question

2005-05-01 by copal01

Hi, I'm interesting in the www.Zubergraphics.com, but the link don't 
work.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" 
<jeades1@s...> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> Thanks for your information about using any inkset.I'll install 
them 
> and run the ink separation/curve creator procedure. When using one 
of 
> the already created curves (EEM) as the basis for my first curve on 
> H'muhle Photo Matte 170gsm paper, I found too much ink was laid 
down 
> and caused buckling of the paper, even after linearizing the inks. 
> Then I used Tom Zuber Black Point procedure to determine the least 
> amount of ink that would produce maximum black without loosing 
DMax. 
> Now my shadows have a longer ---  tonal range and details that were 
> not visible before changing the BP are visible now. And it saves me 
> from wasting a lot of ink unneccessarily.
> 
> Your friend in Photography,
> 
> Johnny 
> 
> In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale 
> <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> > Johnny
> > 
> > ANY inks can be used with QTR.  It is up to you to decide which 
> inks will be
> > used to make up the greyscale curve.  There is nothing stopping 
you 
> from
> > having a purple scale if you wanted if you decided to make a 
scale 
> with
> > purple inks.  So go through the normal process with the FSN, 
> choosing how
> > and which inks you want to make the particular greyscale and in 
> which order.
> > RE your input/output/blackpoint issue I strongly recommend 
letting 
> the QTR
> > ICC profiles do that as described.  You'll get an accurate 
mapping 
> of the
> > bkpt and points in between.  The average profiles that are 
provided 
> for
> > matte and photo paper respectively are good enough for almost all 
> such
> > papers.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > > From: Johnny Eades <jeades1@s...>
> > > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:33:03 -0000
> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR question
> > > 
> > > Frank,
> > > There is a website that has been mentioned here often-Tom Zuber
> > > (www.Zubergraphics.com)that has an abundant amount of data on BW
> > > printing; one being determining the Black Point and White Point 
> your
> > > paper/ink combination is capable of handling. After getting a
> > > densitometer deal on Ebay, I have found that I was laying too 
much
> > > ink on the paper to the point of it buckling. My BP (Black 
Point) 
> has
> > > been changed to Input=0 Output=28 and I find that my tonal 
range 
> is
> > > much longer in the lower values. You may want to go to that 
site 
> and
> > > study some of the information for Black and White printing.
> > > 
> > > Now that I've heard that FSN inks can be utilized in QTR curve
> > > creator, I'll get to working on that.
> > > 
> > > Your friend in Photography,
> > > 
> > > Johnny
> > >

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