Digital BW, The Print

super dumb question:
What are the "usual settings for ut2 curves"?.....for ilford and 
kirkland, it is "glossy film", for matte prints it is "matte paper", 
and for pr. glossy, semi gloss and luster it is "preimium photo 
paper".....so is there "usual setting? I am thinking possibly "glossy 
photo paper" or  "photo paper"......I'll give those a try when I 
getting my new clear carts going today......thanks in advance! DM

On May 1, 2005, at 8:04 AM, Paul Roark wrote:

> Doug,
>
>  You're right, I do have a neutral PSM curve for the 1280 and UT2.� I 
> also
>  made a version of that for Glop.
>
>  I don't see any notes on media type, so I assume the usual UT2 Curves
>  settings are used.
>
>  I did notice the Green & Red black points on the curves were the 
> opposite of
>  what usually gives the best dmax, so I made a version 2 with the 
> points
>  reversed.� I'll see how they work today.
>
>  Paul
>  www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Douglas
>  > meeuwsen
>  > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:39 AM
>  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson Pr.Semi matte....Roark workflow
>  >
>  > hmmmmm....I have a curve from you (i think) for premium semi and 
> glop
>  > and eboni.....it is only one curve, neutral. I use the 1280, with
>  > UT2/glop. Tomorrow, after I get the clear carts installed I will 
> mess
>  > around with some diferent things, like trying the diferent media
>  > settings on a step wedge etc.......now I wonder where that curve 
> came
>  > from!
>  > take care, DM
>  > On Apr 30, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Paul Roark wrote:
>  >
>  > > Doug,
>  > >
>  > >� I use Epson Premium Semimatte (PSM) with the newer UT inksets 
> (not
>  > > UT1) and
>  > >� no Glop.� I spray it after I print.� My workflow is just the 
> normal
>  > >� Photoshop RGB curves, Epson driver, with Eboni installed but not
>  > > used.� The
>  > >� black is generated by the 2 dark gray inks.
>  > >
>  > >� Because PSM was not available in smaller sizes, I have not made 
> many
>  > > curves
>  > >� for it.� I suppose I should do that now that more people will be
>  > > cutting it
>  > >� down from 17 x 22.
>  > >
>  > >� What printer and inkset are you using?
>  > >
>  > >� Paul
>  > >� www.PaulRoark.com
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >� > -----Original Message-----
>  > >� > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  > >� > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of
>  > > Douglas
>  > >� > meeuwsen
>  > >� > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 6:09 PM
>  > >� > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  > >� > Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Pr.Semi matte....Roark workflow
>  > >� >
>  > >� > I was at a gallerie yesterday, and the BW darkroom prints 
> looked
>  > > pretty
>  > >� > good with a very nice surface, and no glass in front. I asked 
> the
>  > > guy
>  > >� > what kind of paper it was, thinking they may have been ink 
> prints,
>  > > and
>  > >� > he said "semi-matte, darkroom".....Anyways, I still have not 
> been
>  > > able
>  > >� > to get the kind of quality that I get from kirkland from my
>  > > semi-matte
>  > >� > using the curves for ebony and glop. I suspect that it is The 
> media
>  > >� > setting, which I am not sure of. When I use the glossy film 
> setting,
>  > >� > the shadows are kind of posterized, and when I use the premium
>  > > glossy
>  > >� > setting the ink is way too heavy. I just did a print with 
> premium
>  > >� > semigloss, and it did turn out quite nice. The glop is less
>  > > effective
>  > >� > with semigloss that it is with kirkland and semi-matte. I do 
> like
>  > > the
>  > >� > surface of semi the best, and the glop works great on it.
>  > >� >
>  > >� > So I am wondering if I should experiment more with media 
> settings,
>  > > or
>  > >� > adjust the curves. I almost think that the ilford curves may 
> work
>  > >� > better than the semimatte curve. (accidentally chose the wrong 
> one
>  > > one
>  > >� > time. It was the ilford carbon curve, looked pretty good, but 
> it
>  > > was a
>  > >� > diferent image)
>  > >� >
>  > >� > So, Paul, or anyone that may be trying this combo, what do you 
> guys
>  > >� > suggest? I have been doing some experiments jsut trying to 
> drain my
>  > >� > last prefilled glop cart. It is finally empty, so tomorrow I 
> will
>  > >� > attemp switching over to the clear carts. Crossing my fingers!
>  > >� >
>  > >� > as Usual, all info is much appreciated,
>  > >� >
>  > >� > Doug M
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