Digital BW, The Print

Congrats Frank. I submitted10 and they'd take 4 but want me to resubmit more
later. What is their commission?

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: <frank@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 5:58 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Beyond the name: selling prints


> Hi Mark,
>
> I've been going through similar questioning lately because Photo Eye
> accepted 20 of my photos for the Photographer's Showcase.  (Thank you
> Jennifer Drucker for inspiring me to go through the fuss and finance of
> sending stuff off to them.)
>
> 1.  I never heard about size changes within editions.  My art
> photographer buddies survive by selling an edition (say 1-20 16X16 inch
> prints) and then doing another edition at say 1-10 at 30X30 inches.
>
> 2.  I sell my 20X24 silver prints for $500 each, but I told Photo Eye
> I'd sell 13X19 inch carbon pigment piezo (no TM because I'm using MIS
> variable tone inks) prints for $375.  I was going by Jennifer Drucker's
> pricing.  I originally thought it was too cheap and now I see you are
> giving your fabulous images away for $300. (Is that before or after
> commision?) I can't figure out this digital pricing problem.  Maybe
> editions of 15 or so is the way to go.  At least the limited
> availability justifies higher prices.
>
> 3.  I noticed that Ray Meeks has his digital prints called "carbon
> pigment" on the Photographer's Showcase.  No "piezo" mentioned.  Mark
> seems disinterested in describing his prints any more specifically.
> Maybe I'll drop the "piezo" also.
>
> 4.  I love the fingerprint idea, but I'd probably ruin the print at the
> last minute by applying a smudged finger print.
>
> 5.  I think two dates is the honest way to go, but is it too much
> information?  I just donated a print to auction that was 1992/2001.  Is
> that not a suspicious stretch of time?
>
> 6.  I hate attaching too much information to a print.  I once sold a
> portfolio to a guy for around $1500.  He wanted me to write a
> description (story) for every print.  I'm a shooter not a writer.  I
> hated doing the extra work.  A signature should be sufficient proof of
> authenticity (unless you are buying a Lewis Hine print).
>
> 7.  I like to give art buyers archival quality. I'm using Legion Photo
> Matte.  Does anyone think that paper has longevity problems?
>
> This is several posts worth of carping.  Sorry for running on.
>
> Frank
>
> http://www.culturalvisions.com
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Mark Tucker" <mark@m...>
> wrote:
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
> > <tflash@e...> wrote:
> > > Interesting. As a collector I'd want the first print of every edition,
> > AND
> > > it's the cheapest.
> >
> > Also, that's an interesting link that Jerry posted:
> >
> > http://www.tfaoi.com/articles/andres/aa4.htm
> >
> > I printed it out and I'm going to fax it to my gallery to see what she
> > says about this "Certificate of Authenticity".
> >
> > For me, I have been playing around with dabbing my thumb into
> > a pile of lead pencil trimmings, to get a thumbprint thing going. I
> > press my thumb into the area just below my signature. Ink
> > seemed to be too strong and dark, but lead seems about right;
> > kinda light grey. Just to show that I made the print. I think I started
> > to notice this factor when I started looking at EWeston prints;
> > those "vintage" prints were made by him, and then those other
> > ones followed later, made by his son. The vintage ones always
> > seemed so much "better"; but that's probably only my projection.
> > I'm sure they were technically fine, maybe even better tonally. But
> > to know that EW made them, with that wacky setup in that cabin
> > in Carmel, just made them SO much sweeter.
> >
> > I also seem to want to put TWO dates on a print -- the year the
> > photograph was shot, and then the year the print was made. I've
> > been doing something like "2001/2001".
> >
> > I guess the idea of this official form -- the Certificate of
> > Authenticity -- addresses all these questions. On some level, if I
> > was a collector, and I was writing a check for thousands of
> > dollars, why not ask for some kind of officially regarded
> > document; almost like a Title to a car.
> >
> > It'll be interesting to see what this gallery says. She might just
> > laugh at the idea.
> >
> > -MT
>
>
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