Digital BW, The Print

Steve, 

Are you sure Epson is having the inks made in China?

I thought Epson was having problems with QC concerning the inks they 
had made there, and moved it elsewhere.

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:
> 
> Paul;
>  
> > > >> What is this going to do to independent monochrome ink 
> manufacturers?
> > > >
> > > > The third party sellers will have the usual clone inks with 
> much lower
> > > > prices.
> > > 
> > > Maybe I am naïve but it seems as the inks get more and more 
> complex with
> > > newer encapsulation techniques the clones may begin to lag 
> further behind.
> 
> Maybe I'm cynical, but Epson is, after all having this stuff made 
in 
> China. Considering current Chinese-Japanese relations, I wouldn't 
be 
> surprised to "clone" inks and carts on the market within a few 
> months..
> 
>  
> 
> 
> >> > How do you think they cool the greyscale?  I guess I would 
have 
> thought by
> > > using LC not magenta.  Can you elaborate...
> > 
> > They need C, LC, M and LM for the best results.  Cyan by itself 
> gives you
> > greenish B&Ws.  Use of just the light pigs is not optimum because 
> it puts
> > more fluid than needed on the glossy paper, which is usually a 
> negative.  
> > 
> 
> I'm hoping they're doing it the other way: formulating a set of 
inks 
> that don't need cooling, so there's no influx of color pigs on a 
> neutral print. That is after all the most reliable way to get 
> crossover/cast/metamerism free B&W printing. Is that just too 
> logical to hope for?
> 
> I'm also very curious to see how they pressurize the bigger carts: 
> An internal bladder, an external pump metering air into the cart, a 
> simple mechanical solution such as a springy plastic panel pushing 
> against the ink bag?  How they do this could affect third party 
> suppliers as much as cloning the inks, at least initially.
> 
> 
> Steven Karafyllakis