Steve, One could also read the WIR notes as indicating the "new" UC K3 inks are basically just UC inks, with the addition of the LLK and a lot of hype. Personally, I think the 2400 would be high on my list, but I'm going to wait for a dual K large format machine. The black ink changing may be fine for a service bureau, but not for the type of printing I do. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m] On Behalf Of Steve > Kale > Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 8:18 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson K3 Inkset Permanence Rating > > Footnote 1 suggests that prototype K3s were used....I think they are all > over the place and Wilhem likely is simply under pressure to support the > Epson promotion. I have tried to get an ETA on the new printers from > Calumet here in London to no avail. I do think I am likely to be an early > jumper on one of these - albeit I can't make my mind up as to whether the > extra size of the 4800 really is that much bigger than the 2400.... > > > > From: Paul Roark <paul.roark@verizon.net> > > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:55:37 -0700 > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson K3 Inkset Permanence Rating > > > >> > >> > >> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/9800.html > > > > > > The Note on the right of the introduction of the B&W section says: "The > > Display Permanence Ratings given here are based on long-term testing > with > > the previous generation of UltraChrome inks." > > > > So, we have no specific new B&W display life information. > > > > The WIR note continues: "WIR testing to date with UltraChrome K3 inks > > indicates that significant increases in Display Permanence Ratings for > > black-and-white prints can be expected because the three-level, high- > stable > > carbon pigment based black inks in the UltraChrome K3 inkset largely > replace > > the ... color inks ..." > > > > The introduction also notes, "The last of the Iris Graphics continuous > flow, > > dye-based inkjet printers originally used by Nash Editions was retired > in > > December 2004." > > > > It all makes me wonder if Epson may be re-thinking its "Giclee" > marketing > > and predominantly "proprietary dyes and pigments" Material Safety Data > Sheet > > description of their black inks. > > > > I hope someone who buys a 2400 will supply me with a test strip to test > > against the MIS UT inks as soon as possible. That should be > interesting. > > > > Meanwhile I see Kodak has yet another new top management person. Good > luck. > > It's going to be hard to watch the Titanic attempt to steer away from > the > > iceberg with its way too small rudder. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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RE: [Digital BW] Epson K3 Inkset Permanence Rating
2005-05-15 by Paul Roark
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