Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> Do you have any reliable suggestions for using 
> the MIS or Generations G Chrome  pigments in the 10K CF machine? 


I have some ideas about building something, but so far it looks like 
the parts count is too small for the manufacturers to bother getting 
pricing to me. I have one other lead that I'll follow up later today, 
but they are from Europe, the other two companies were from USA. So 
if this happens, more money will be lost to US manufacturers. Too bad 
since one of the products was a perfect fit.

I think I can build something now, but one of the main parts is $166 
each, and I would need 1 for each color. Doesn't take too long to 
determine that this just isn't feasible as the fully assembled carts 
would have to sell around $2000+ per set. If I can't make what I want 
for a selling price of $500 (maybe up to $650) a set (you supply the 
empty carts), then it isn't happening.

The big problem is going to be testing. I'm not going to run out and 
buy one of these new Epson printers, or even and "old" 10K. In theory 
it's a simple matter to make something that will work, in practice it 
could be different. There are some unknown things about what Epson is 
really doing to cause the ink to flow, and without having access to 
one, it may take some work arounds to get a system functional. That 
said, my percentage of success is pretty high. I could definitely 
make a passive gravity feed system that would work, but it is going 
to be bulky and ugly. I try to stay away from the ugly part as much 
as possible, no systems with tubes stuck through a hole in the top of 
a bottle for me.

And from my past experiences I would suggest the "MIS" inks over the 
Mediastreet. If you really want to get more performance, you  might 
consider the UltraPro inks and a RIP (RIP retail is $1450 for 44 inch 
printers). Did you get the message I sent you off list? It's from 
this yahoo mail account, so it might have ended up in your trash.