--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "gradyvillejb" <jb1@g...> wrote: > I don't mind the work - it sort of falls in with what i do for a living, so i can write off all > expenses etc... Which third party inks would you recommend the most? > Just about everyone here would recommend the MIS UT series inks, but it also depends what you want to do. If B/W with selective tones is the major focus, then those would be fine/best. If you want to do B/W with selective areas of color, then it gets a little harder (until the new printers come out). The new 3 black inks should yield slightly better prints than the two blacks of the "current" printers, four blacks would probably be better. A driver that is better than the Epson drivers (a RIP) would also be a key in repeatable prints, with the most control, and therefore should produce the best results. Now you can set the point where the different shades mix together into one channel, and send jobs in CMYK, or atleast make your output profiles in CMYK so that you can control the black generation. With good control of the color and black channels, you should be able to send an image that has both B/W and color elements within the same image, and get completely neutral grays with no metamerism, as well as beautiful color. Inks will of course play a major role too, do you stay with the OEM inks, or stray onto the path of third party inks. I like experimenting so it's third party inks for me, but that's a personal choice. And then there are the paper choices, way to many to go into... So what does all this mean... If you want the absolute most complete control over the whole process, it would involve a good RIP (about $500 USD for the 4X00 printers), good quality hardware (spectrophotometer) based profile creation package that is capable of making CMYK, or better yet 6, 7, or 8 channel profiles, with a method to make a custom GCR curve for the black channel. Now within reason, you can put any ink into any channel, control which inks mix and where they mix, plus control (as well as possible) the way an image gets transformed from its color space, to the printer's color space. The profiling package for this level of control will cost somewhere around $2000+, if you want to do the multi channel profiles, probably cost more like $3000+. Now how many channels do you need in a printer? That's a good question, and there isn't a good answer other than the more the better (to a point). You might be able to use a 6 color printer for all of your work by removing 2 of the colors, and mixing a custom set of black inks (3 of them) and leave the C, M, and Y inks in for toning and a little bit of color work, as well as B/W with color elements. So you might want to look for a used 7500 to save a little money, and get bigger output. Or you could look at the 7600 or 4000, then you could build a four black, plus CMY machine. You would of course need to use third party inks to deal with this, and the UT mixed with OEM or third party CMY would be a good choice. The 4800 would be a good choice, since it is already set for all of this, I would still recommend the RIP and profile creation package to gain the most control. If you go with all third party inks, and want to mix your our blacks, I would suggest finding a supplier of the Image Specialists UltraPro inks. If you don't want to mix your own, the UT series inks with toners or CMY UltraChrome replacement inks. The UltraPro inks have less gloss differential than previous inks, and also a better dmax with the matte black than the Eboni that most people use. The gain is slight, but the big thing is that this matte black holds it density better as you overload the paper with too much ink (yes it uses a different carrier from the Eboni). And all of this is just how I would approach the task, I'm certain there will be other opinions, and many will be much cheaper. But this reflects what I consider the best possible control, which in the end should yield the best possible results for your given needs with the Epson hardware (old and new). And there is one final choice... You could find a print shop that is really good, and let them worry about all the details, but you would lose some control, and you wouldn't learn as much as you would printing for yourself.
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Re: A Multiple Choice Question:
2005-05-23 by dfaprinting
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