Digital BW, The Print

The FSN inks have the "same" density as the UT-FSN inks.  But, different
inks are absorbed differently onto the papers.  So, while they may be the
same density at point A, then won't necessarily be the same at point B.
None of the curves are exactly linear.

While the FSN inks are older and will fade faster, they'll look good for
quite a while.  They were the first "non-warming" ink, but this was done by
putting in a combination of yellow dye and cyan pigments such that the
yellow dye fading would offset the other fading, whereas the strong cyan
pigs would not fade.  The net result was a stable tone on EEM, with slightly
divergent results on other papers.

I would not use the FSN inks for things you want to last a very long time.

Good luck.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick H.
> Nugent
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:17 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS FSN inks with QTR
> 
> Hi Johnny,
> 
> I remember reading something about them at the MIS website. Sorry for
> the misunderstanding. I believe QTR should be able to create good
> profiles for this inkset. However Paul maybe able to point out
> something about this inkset that you must watch out for.
> 
> --nick
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades"
> <jeades1@s...> wrote:
> > Nick,
> >
> > These inks I have on hand are not the YT-FSN inks; instead they are
> > the original MIS-FSN inks used before Paul did his magic and came up
> > with the UltraTone inks.
> >
> > Your friend in Photography,
> >
> > Johnny
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nick H. Nugent"
> > <nghin@p...> wrote:
> > > Hi Johnny,
> > >
> > > QTR should have no problems with both UT-FS, UT-FSN, and even the
> > > older VM inksets.
> > >
> > > For the 1160 and Eboni UT-FS/N I can create profiles for both matte
> > > and glossy by turning off the Eboni for the later (or extending the
> > > dark gray to 100% density to remove the gloss differential). For the
> > > 1280 you may use either the LC or LM position to hold PK ink for
> > > glossy, or add toners from your UT2 inkset for interesting
> > variations.
> > >
> > > --nick
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades"
> > > <jeades1@s...> wrote:
> > > > I have a full set of the older MIS FSN inks and would like to use
> > > > them with QTR. I am now using UT2 inks in this Epson 1280 and
> > have
> > > > created QTR paper curves for H'muhle Photo Matte and Epson EEM
> > > > papers. Has anyone done any QTR printing with the older FSN inks
> > > > successfully and with satisfaction?
> > > >
> > > > Your friend in Photography,
> > > >
> > > > Johnny
> 
> 
> 
> 
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