Paul, What spray are you using on you prints. With MIS ink I assume. Thanks M Stratton On May 25, 2005, at 11:39 AM, Paul Roark wrote: > Dave, > > I think the best example that shows that the surface reflective > characteristics are the main differences between matte and glossy > papers > with respect to dmax is that an Arches Hot Press, un-coated print > jumps from > about 1.5 to 2.5 with multiple coats of, for example, acrylic, > applied to > its surface to give it a gloss. > > The spectrophotometers we use for measuring dmax use nearly perfect > lighting > that avoids the problems of reflections.� This gives the glossy > papers a > huge advantage.� > > In the real world, a matte print sitting on my desk top appears to > have a > better dmax than a gloss print because the glossy print dmax is wiped > out by > reflections.� That is, the nature of the lighting is what makes all > the > difference.� If the display conditions are perfect, the glossy prints > are > terrific.� If the lighting is bad, like a window behind the viewer, > matte > wins.� > > Of course, if one puts glass over matte, you may end up with the > worst of > both worlds.� So, my favorite is a sprayed Semimatte with no glass.� > But, I > think both types of prints are important, and being able to print > either > matte or glossy is a critical part of any inkset I mix. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > davelongviews > > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:29 AM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics? > > > > There has been a lot of discussion over extended periods on the > group > > regarding matte > > and glossy dmax. Is it true that light SCATTERED at the paper > surface is > > what gives a matte > > surface its look, and that very same scattering is what reduces > dmax? And > > with a glossy > > paper less light is scattered, more is REFLECTED, dmax is greater, > and you > > have the > > glossyness to deal with. In other words isn't it true that you > can't have > > a matte surface with > > a truely large dmax? Aren't paper surface/glossiness and dmax > directly > > related in a way we > > wish they weren't? 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Re: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics?
2005-05-25 by Margaret Stratton
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