Digital BW, The Print

With piezo, you shouldn't have ANY dot pattern, no matter what printer
you are using.

Jerry





Mahesi Caplan-Faust wrote:
> 
> I really don't get it. I am looking at my results from the Minolta scanner
> in B&W from agfa 100  fb4 hp5. There is no discernable grain on my 10x8's.
> Maybe it is that most are off 6x7 negs but even my 35mm's look good. I
> should add I use the Piezo inkset and the Cone driver overrides the Epson
> giving me beautiful continuous tones. How to distinguish grain from the the
> dot pattern the printer lays down. Excuse me if it is a stupid question. I
> am looking at a 35mm print under a loupe and really there is almost a
> complete absence of grain!
> 
> Adam
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Bernie Ess [mailto:albatros.bee@...]
>   Sent: 04 December 2001 17:00
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: review of the Minolti multi pro
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "culturalvisions" <frank@...>
> 
>   > I have two major complaints about scans of my b&w and color
>   > negs.
>   >
>   > 1.  They look grainier than silver or color chemical prints of the
>   > same.  GEM helps improve this at the cost of very long scan
>   > times.  I've read that this grainy appearance is called "grain
>   > aliasing" and is aparent in most prosumer scanners.
> 
>   Frank,
>   there has been a complaint about the grain problem - think it was on the
>   film scanners list - from a guy who is using the Polaroid 120 - same
> problem
>   apparently. I see 2 ways to get around this:
>   - buy a more expensive scanner, maybe the Imacon photo (too much for me)
>   - take care to shoot only very fine grain film (slower than 100) and be
>   careful to use chemicals that don\ufffdt emphathize the grain.
> 
>   I had made a scan of a photo I   thought was good by a service, but was
>   dissappointed by the amount of very visible grain in the scan. Don\ufffdt know
>   what scanner they use, but the problem seems to be there.
> 
>   But as I shoot mainly b&w, this problem leaves me worried, although others
>   don\ufffdt consider it as bad.
> 
>   Greetings Bernhard
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