What does any of this have to do with DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint ? I thought this e-group was about digital printmaking not the history of photography? Mark On Jun 15, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Djon wrote: > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale > <stevekale@b...> wrote: > > I'd go one step further. Not only did he have vision as to the > final image > > but he had an enormous understanding of the technical requirements > of his > > chosen mode of expression. Witness the interview when he talks > about having > > to calculate the exposure for that capture. One must not only > have a flair > > or taste for what is a good image - a critic has these qualities. > > Not quite. Critics can be valuable but they are analysts and > talkers, not doers. > > Ansel's "calculations" are traditional process, organized and > refined by him with Minor White (co-creator of "Zone System" and IMO > better photographer and teacher from important perspectives)... not > to mention other people who used and mentored the same techniques > without popularising them. > > One must > > also have a true understanding of the technical requirements and > limitations > > involved in bringing that vision to reality. As he stressed > repeatedly, > > skill at both is required of a good photographer. > > Not true at all. > > Ansel learned, helped organize, and taught *a possible approach to a > narrow range of photography.* There are/were many other "good > photographers" (his equals) who didn't/don't: people like Henri > Cartier Bresson, Joseph Muench, Irving Penn, Richard Avedon and, > more recently, Sebastio Salgado...obvious examples. > > Ansel was important as a teacher within one narrow genre, as > important for his support of the Sierra Club and its members > enthusiasm for the Sierra Nevada Mts and environmentalism generally. > > He was very analytic, lacking broad interests and emotional > complexity IMO. He didn't appreciate the excitement of his home town > in his youth (San Francisco), the greatest music of his own youth > (jazz), never explored color photography to anything like the depth > of his peers. > > He was a fine portrait photographer (IMO should have done more) and > did good industrial work. He was very successful selling prints and > reproduction rights, from the early Sixties (eg "Half Dome" Hills > Brothers 5# coffee cans that seemed to grow marijuana seedlings in > every kitchen window in Northern California). > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] For You Ansel Adams Fans
2005-06-15 by Mark Savoia
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