Digital BW, The Print

Lyson quads used to be neutral in daylight and reddish under tungsten. They 
obviously aren't getting anywhere after all these years. They are wasting their 
time.  Their sample prints should be the best possible print imaginable. 

Kodak has a new "photo base paper" that comes in glossy and lustre. I have 
samples but haven't tried it yet. It is supposed to eliminate the bronzing and 
gloss diff caused by pigments on glossy media. By feeling the back I can see 
it is rc but the front surface doesn't look like plastic. Logix is carrying this paper 
I believe. That is where I got the samples. Have no idea of the permanency, 
but with Kodak I would be suspicous to say the least. But it might end up 
being a good product, they need the business.

John



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "yohnnyboy" <
chhopk@l...> wrote:
> I just received my test print from Lyson of their digital darkroom 
> inks on their Darkroom White Satin paper. The print has an incredible 
> dmax with wonderful neutral image tone. I notice serious microbanding 
> in regions of certain darker tones. However, it is quite possible 
> this is just a problem with quality control in a print made for the 
> mass market. The subtlety of highlights and also the detail in the 
> shadows leaves a lot to be desired but I'm guessing this is due to 
> the images they chose to print and not a fundamental limitation of 
> the inkset.
> 
> Unfortunately, the metamerism is very bad. In tungsten light the 
> image tone is wonderful but in daylight the darker blacks are ....how 
> do I say this kindly....they seem to take on a dule blueish tone that 
> for me is just plain ugly. This is only my opinion and I am probably 
> wrong. I will be interested to see how others feel.
> 
> On a different note, the darkroom white satin paper looks 
> interesting. Its a plastic material without the synthetic look 
> typical of these types of papers like Epson Premium luster. The Lyson 
> paper has a surface structure that looks SOMEWHAT like an air dried 
> fiber based Ag print. The reflective sheen is not nearly as strong as 
> Ilford multigrade FB or Oriental Seagull fiber based Ag papers.  The 
> one thing I don't like is that the paper is very much on the thin 
> side almost like a single weight Ag paper. I will try some with 
> ultrachrome and MIS UT7 inks. Anyone else looked at this paper?