Digital BW, The Print

Gotcha. So if it's ink (chemical) pattent issues, that I can understand.

I did Google for the Epson story for more info. Even tried SlashDot,
but couldn't find detailed info on the specific patented technologies at 
issue.

Scott

Steve Kale wrote:

> I think you will find the cartridges in question were not empty.
>
>
> > From: Scott McLoughlin <scott@...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:39 -0400
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson & Inks ( Major Concern)
> >
> > I agree with you in principle, but I don't know that I agree with you in
> > this
> > case (or many similar cases).
> >
> > We want innovative devices (including printers) that support media (ink)
> > and
> > accessories (cartridges) from many competing suppliers, plain and
> > simple. Has
> > nothing to do with Epson's fair chances of making a few bucks. (No 
> company
> > has a "right" to profit from their innovations at all. If that were
> > true, I'd do alot
> > better in the stock market :-)
> >
> > I can't recall the vendor, but a data backup/storage company added some
> > encryption
> > to their compression, arguing that only their software can be used to
> > access backed
> > up data (e.g., DMCA). The software might be quite innovative, but the
> > artificial
> > restriction (ultimately legal) was not.I think in this case, alot of bad
> > press and a lawsuit
> > (State Farm or some other big buyer) rectified the situation.
> >
> > The computer industry, definitely with some exceptions, is largely
> > driven by evolving
> > industry de jure and de facto standards, and a strong customer
> > preference for some
> > degree of interoperability and customer choice. Still many vendors make
> > plenty of
> > money.
> >
> > The consumers in the consumer technology industries are far less
> > organized and
> > are generally treated like saps as they waste their $$$ on proprietary
> > technologies.
> >
> > So back to Epson. If their printers are innovative, then sell 'em. If
> > their ink is innovative
> > (and it is!), then sell that. But cartridges? Me'thinks not. In any
> > case, customers
> > should pay for the innovations on a case by case basis. I should be able
> > to buy a
> > really nice, fast Sony DVD burner and use really crappy DVD media in it
> > if I want
> > too.
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
>
>
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