Digital BW, The Print

Paul,

Thanks very much for the information and your quick response. 
I'll "stay tuned" as things develop and am interesting in trying this 
inkset as soon as it's available in B&W formulations...

Good luck with the show!

All the best,

Richard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> In the sample MIS 2400 B&W prints I've seen, I really don't see any
> significant gloss differential.  MIS says they have not quite 
reached the
> R800 super gloss point, but they look quite glossy to me.  
> 
> The one area in the B&W samples where I can detect some gloss 
differential
> is in the brightest highlights.  There the paper is not quite as 
glossy in
> the extreme highlights as the light white grays next to the paper 
white.  (I
> assume the paper is Epson Premium Glossy paper.  It has "Epson" on 
the back
> and has buffered interior paper.)
> 
> In the color samples, I can see a slight reflective differential 
between
> strong colors that are next to each other, but it's not bad.
> 
> I was not given a sample of a new PK.  In the past I thought the 
duller
> black was an area where the coated Epson pigs might have an inherent
> advantage.  However, what I'm seeing on the sample prints is a 
black that is
> as glossy as the midtones.  So, I'd say the third party suppliers 
have made
> some real progress with the PK gloss as well as with the bronzing. 
The dmax
> of the black patch is 2.11, and just a hair warm Lab = (7.07, 0.30, 
0.12).
> 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > richard_h95050
> > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:57 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bronzing, Glop, New inks [was QTR/R1800 
matte vs
> > glossy dottiness (Question for Roy)]
> > 
> > Hi Paul,
> > 
> > I'm following this thread on the new ink forumulation with great
> > interest. You've addressed bronzing in relation to these new inks 
and
> > I'm wondering if you would also comment on any improvement with
> > respect to gloss differential?
> > 
> > Thanks very much, Paul.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> > <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > > Ernst,
> > >
> > > > ... The media must have been changed to get better gloss
> > > > printing.
> > >
> > > It's a new base.
> > >
> > > >  Was there a change needed in the driver settings or did the
> > > > ink behave on matte papers like the existing inks do?
> > >
> > > That is the bad news.  I'm going to have to re-formulate the 
inks
> > to get the
> > > same densities if what they sent to me was properly mixed.  
I'll be
> > getting
> > > raw materials to test soon.  At that point it may be time for 
MIS
> > to learn
> > > how to reverse-engineer its own inks.  I'll do some of the most
> > important
> > > inks, but the older ones may be MIS's problem.  My interest 
(after
> > getting a
> > > show hung August 1) is to move forward with the next generation 
ink
> > for my
> > > 7600, not re-doing all the old inks.
> > >
> > > > Dmax drop after drying more or less than what we have now?
> > >
> > > Eboni won't be affected.  I have not seen the new PK.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
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