Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Roy,

That was very useful. I realize this is new to everyone and no one has had 
time to do extensive comparison tests yet. But, what you said about the 
neutral prints probably not showing that much of a difference is very revealing 
to me and makes sense since carbon is so warm in all its dilutions. That is 
interesting because I have always found my sepia and very warm QTR 
ultrachrome prints to be the richest in tonality all things being equal. 

So, I will not rush out to sell my 10K quite yet to buy the 9800 I don't think 
because I'm not not much of a glossy media printer in the first place, 
especially for monochrome.

I will be testing QTR and Eye One with the Piezzotone K7s soon. That could 
be really be something and, allow us Mac users to avoid pc's altogether. Now 
wouldn't that be nice?

John





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <
roy@h...> wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> The answer is a bit hypothetical at the moment.  I've had a very limited
> look at the 4800 and none at the 2400.  But all-in-all the difference boils 
> down to the addition of a light-light-black.  Everything else is pretty much
> the same (at least for 4000 --> 4800).  The LLK will give smoother highlights
> at least for warm tone prints.  But to make a cool print the same LC and LM
> inks are used in the highlights so they are probably not very different than
> before.  The 2400 has some significant benefits in that the heads are much
> larger -- 180 jets/ink rather than 96 jets/ink -- and also the dropsizes are
> somewhat smaller.  This ought to help in speed.
> 
> I don't know how you'd quantify the difference -- the new printers are 
probably
> able to make smoother prints.  But it depends how critically you look at them
> whether you'd notice the difference.
> 
> There is also the issue that they are new inks which reportedly handle
> glossy media better than before.  The "gloss differential" is probably better
> because the LLK ink can be used in the very light areas of the print i.e. 
some
> of the benefit of gloss optimizer.
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
> <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > We still don't have any answer to his question? Especially: QTR-2200 vs 
QTR - 
> 2400
> > This is an importaint issue for hundreds of people, including me. The big 
printers 
> aren't 
> > out yet for us to test. But there are those of you with these and the 4800's.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > e:
> > > Has anyone with a 2200 and a 2400 done any side by sides of the same 
> > > image. I'm using QTR with my 2200 and would like to know if there is a 
> > > difference between prints using this or IJC and the Epson Driver with 
> > > the 2400? For that matter a 2400 using QTR.
> > > 
> > > John H