Digital BW, The Print

Hmmm...  I was trying to get by with a 3000 to figure this out because
 it was had so cheap.  Oh well, thanks for the suggestions Paul.

John

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> John,
> 
> That interesting sample looks like it ought to be able to be printed
with a
> monotone inkset of the right tone/hue.  It looks like a carbon-sepia
type
> tone.  For UT7 sepia I use a combination of carbon, 7600 yellow and R800
> red.  Using an old 3000 makes this more difficult because you'll
need more
> than a single ink due to the large dots.  The nice thing about the newer
> printers is that you can mix just a single ink, like the UT7-sepia,
and run
> it all the way to where a dark carbon (UT7-C) and then the black can
take
> over the density formation.  To make such a single custom ink, I
recommend
> starting with the light carbon UT7-LC (or the sepia, which might be
close)
> and adding color as needed.  If that ends up too dense, the UT1
> hextone-Y/quadtone-M is about the lightest pure carbon ink MIS has.  The
> UT-FS-Y is a bit lighter, but has some cooling pigments in it.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yaho

ogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > mojojones2001
> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:54 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split toning procedure (was Newbie
question -
> > what is duotone?)
> > 
> > This is very interesting.  I've been trying to create a digital
> > printing method that I used to do in the darkroom.  It wasn't really
> > split toning but achieved a split tonality.  I would take a
> > traditional BW print that had been purposefully printed dark and
> > bleach it back heavily with a potassium ferrocyanide solution.  The
> > solution would not only bleach the highlights, but stain the upper
> > tonalities to a yellow/sepia hue.  Unfortunately, the technique was
> > quite difficult to control and even though I got several prints that I
> > liked it was a hit or miss affair.
> > 
> > I've been able to duplicate the look to a great degree on the screen
> > using PhotoShop's duotone function with custom curves but I have yet
> > to get them to print.  Here are some examples:
> > http://homepage.mac.com/mojojones/display/page1.html  If you look at
> > the detail and duotone dialog you'll notice that the tonality stays
> > neutral and progressive until about 50% where it becomes light then
> > shifts to the yellow tone for the upper tones prematurely bleeding off
> > to white (the bleached effect).
> > 
> > I first tried to print these images with standard color inks but the
> > neutral tones where not neutral.  So after reading about MIS viable
> > tone inks I thought maybe I could to it in a similar way.  So I set up
> > an old 3000 with the FSN inkset and replaced the Magenta place with a
> > custom mixed yellow/sepia tint the was a similar density to the K tint
> > it replaced.  I've only just started experimenting but as yet the
> > results haven't been to acceptable.  I'm not getting enough density in
> > the yellow/sepia tones and they are going green due to the blue tint.
> >  I'll probably have to add some black to increase the density of the
> > custom tint and restrict the blue tint to the lower tones.
> > 
> > John J.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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