Digital BW, The Print

Bert

You are a gem with a wonderful sense of humor. I am
happy to charge twice as much but I am afraid that
twice $0.00 still adds up to same amount.

Happy printing
Woody

--- Bert Katzung <katzung1@...> wrote:


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Very well said, Woody! I agree with your comments on
all points. (And thanks 
to Clayton for his excellent sample BO prints!)

I have to admit that when I look at my BO prints with
my 8x loupe and see 
all the isolated dots, I cringe a little. But that is
clearly not the way 
the public looks at prints, nor should they. (Not sure
how museum curators 
look at them, but then Seurat did pretty well with his
dotted paintings.)

That gives me an idea: how about if we call the black
only prints 
"Seurat-giclee" prints and price them at twice what we
charge for "inkjet" 
prints.  Either that or prohibit viewing from less
than 6 inches and 
prohibit loupes in galleries.

Regards,

Bert

katzung1@...
www.astronomy-images.com
www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "woodyspedden" <elwood@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Black Only Printing


Everyone

I recently sent a private email to Clayton Jones
regarding BO
printing in which I was highly complimentary of his
work.

He suggested that I should send this to the entire
forum so that BO
Printing can be placed in context with other viable
methods. So here
goes:

Clayton

A while back I purchased three of your BO prints and
absolutely loved them. (At the time I wasn't embroiled
in the Black and White Print Forum.)

Once I got involved in the forum I became "concerned"
as people with far more experience and knowledge than
I ranted on about "the dots" and how continuously
toned prints were so much better.

I already had a copy of imageprint, but I purchased a
copy of QTR from Roy and have spent a large amount of
my free time for the past month or so developing
profiles for my most common papers (which quite
frankly is a good mirror of your "great paper chase."

Today I printed a detailed image on all of those
papers using my QTR profiles and also with BO. I then
enlisted my wife and daughters support (independently
of each other) to evaluate the prints with no
knowledge of how they had been created. Both very
quickly picked the BO prints over the toned prints and
by a wide margin.

The ultimate winners for this image were Premier Art
Hot Press High WHite Matte, and the Red River Dourian
Art!

Certainly not that you needed the validation but I for
one just wanted to thank you for the work you have
done; communicating the basis for that work; and for
me providing me with a solid foundation for the
creation of my images.

By the way, both my wife and daughter raved most about
the transparency of the images (read the luminousity
of having the white show through.) To them, and to me,
the continuous toned prints, by comparison, appeared a
little "muddy."

Thanks ever so much

Woody Spedden

I offer this as strictly my opinions.

Thanks for reading
Woody Spedden







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