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Re: [Digital BW] Seurat and Black Only Printing

2005-08-08 by Eric Vogel

Ernst - much appreciated!

Eric
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From: Ernst Dinkla <E.Dinkla@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Seurat and Black Only Printing

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>Eric Vogel wrote:<BR>
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>>I am curious to know: what are spectral scan and printing
methods?<BR>
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>Several methods: Measuring the paints with spectrometers and
adding that <B=
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>to the information gathered with advanced digital photography or
<BR>
>scanning.� Monochrome sensor with several (up to 13)�
narrow band=
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>filters to get a better spectral representation of the pigments
used in <BR=
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>the painting.<BR>
>The printing part is more an abbreviation for what is used in
practice: <BR=
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>printing with more hues or what they call N-color systems. For
example <BR>
>the Epson R800 is a mild version of that, CMYKORGB the practical
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>maximum. N-color printing should reduce differences in
metamerism <BR>
>between the original and the reproduction as the pigments
between the <BR>
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>as oil based pigments in paintings behave differently to for
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>For musea having the actual digital-spectral information at hand
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>The last more specific for the Seurat painting and describing
the aging <BR=
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>of the pigments and the loss of luminosity as a result. A
digital <BR>
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>Not that I understand all of it :-)<BR>
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>Ernst<BR>
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