Digital BW, The Print

Thank you for your answers, it's funny how true is this saying that
the more you know, the 
more you realize that you don't know...  


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "andrew"
<andrew@a...> wrote:
> I print B&W from my R800 using Epson Premium Glossy, Ultrachrome
inks
> and a custom ICC profile. To my eye the prints are damn-near
neutral,
> punchy and don't seem to give anything away to the Ilford Multigrade
> prints my wife used to produce in the darkroom. 


I'm sure that what does the difference must be your custom icc
profile since my tests have 
all been done with standard profiles and I can see (subtly) casts in
middle to light grays. 


> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
paul.roark@v... 
>wrote:
>  MIS does sell a matte
> black for it (see http://www.inksupply.com/r800ink_org.cfm), but
I'm not
> sure if it is Eboni.  (I suspect it is.)


Thanks Paul, I'll write to MIS to ask them.


> > > If 8x10, A4 is all you need, a C86 (or similar) with MIS EZ inks
> or R200
> > > with UT2 may be a way to go that is affordable.


This would probably be the easiest solution but I suffer from a bad
case of GAS (Gear 
Acquisition Syndrome) and I'm in a phase of recovery trying to only
use the stuff that I 
already own :)  Seriously though, I've been a newbie at lots of
things and after a few 
expensive mistakes, I've learned to ask questions to the people that
know before I get my 
feet wet. (Right now one of those mistakes seems to be the R800! So
much for 
experience!) I'll probably invest in a larger printer in the future
but right now I need to 
learn with what I've got.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones"
<cj@c...> wrote:

> Epson obviously knows how to do it, so what I'm doing is modifying
the
> QTR curve to make a ramp as much as possible like the Epson one. 
I'm
> not done yet but am making progress.  I'll be happy to share the
curve
> once I get it finished.


Thanks Clayton please do share the curve, I guess the one you're
doing will be for your 
2200 and I'll have to modify it for the R800, is this correct?




> >deep deep blacks and strong fade resistance. 
>  
> You'll get top-notch results in both these areas with BO.  The only
> thing is the graininess, as I'm sure you're aware.  You either like
it
> or you don't.



I'm all for graininess so I think that BO is what better suits what
I'm looking for. The only 
thing that worries me is that Eboni is normally used in printers with
4 or more picoliter 
droplets and the R800's are 1.5 picoliters, I don't know if this can
clog the print heads, I 
don't even know if I should worry about this. On the other hand, the
small size could help 
to reduce this graininess that some people don't like about BO, what
do you think?


Thanks again for your anwers.


Khaled