Digital BW, The Print

Yes, Kirkland is not appropriate for dyes.  On the other hand, it appears to
be among the very few glossy papers with acid-free paper inside, like the
Epson premium papers.  It does not appear to be a "cheap" paper in terms of
it's manufacturing.  I'll know more soon, as I have some Kirkland paper in
the fader now. 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Bell
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:24 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Kirkland Paper Print Longevity?
> 
> I suspect the Kirkland glossy paper isn't a swellable polymer type, so
> will
> fade with dye based inks.
> 
> The 59 grey cartridge inks are dye, so need a swellable polymer paper for
> the claimed archival properties of the HP printer. I have framed prints at
> home, and 4 that have been part of a monochrome group exhibition that has
> been moving from library to library over the last year, all with no
> fading.
> They were printed on HP's recommended premium plus paper and Ilford
> Galerie
> Classic Pearl.
> 
> As the MIS inks and Epson UC are pigment based, not dye, I wouldn't expect
> the fast fading quoted. How long it will last though, I've no idea.
> 
> Steve Bell
> 
> 
> On 12/8/05 10:51 pm, "Scott McLoughlin" <scott@...> wrote:
> 
> > Below, this was a post from an HP user on the LUG. Wondering about
> > whether this will apply to Kirkland Paper + MIS inks or the UC
> > inks?
> >
> > Scott
> > ------
> >
> > I've been printing B&W prints with Kirkland glossy paper from Costco for
> about
> > six months now using a HP 7690 and their grey/black carts.  There has
> been a
> > noticable fade towards yellow/green in the B&W images I have had sitting
> on a
> > mantlepiece in our living room (no direct sunlight, prints unframed).
> Similar
> > prints on HP's top of the line glossy paper have had no fading at all
> that I
> > can see.  As much as I hate to say it, the combination of ink and paper
> really
> > does matter.  I would caution all of those expecting some sort of image
> > stability from ink-jet prints to test carefully under display conditions
> > (particularly with the inks being as expensive as they are).
> 
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