Scott, > Which Kodak paper did you use: Premium or Professional? It was the latest Kodak paper as of 3/04 that was said by Kodak to be a "breakthrough." They were marketing is under the name "Ultima Picture Paper," "ColorLast" version. The inks were the HP 7660 B&W inks. They were printed by a third party. My interest was that Kodak was claiming something like 100 years even without framing. It turns out, of course, that Kodak simply re-defined how much light a print would get in "100 years" of display. Nonetheless, it appears to be a good "swellable polymer" type of paper. > > By the way, I was using Epson inks in the R800, fwiw. The Kodak paper I used was specifically for dyes. My attempts to print pigments on these swellable emulsions has resulted in prints that take a very long time to dry. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > > > > HP Premium Plus Photo Paper should be the only paper to use with > an > > > HP photo printer if you expect longevity. > > > > > > > In March 2004 I fade tested the HP B&W ink on HP, Ilford Classic > Pearl, and > > Kodak's latest paper at the time. They were all close, with the HP > paper > > having a very slight edge in the midtones, and Kodak having a > slightly > > better dmax after the fade test. (The Ilford 100% patch actually > increased > > in density, but it was significantly lower to start with.) I > generally > > concluded the swellable papers on the market are close to the same > and all > > very good considering the inks are dyes. (They are still not in > the same > > league with carbon, however.) > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland Paper Print Longevity?
2005-08-14 by Paul Roark
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