Here's a better link for a quick look: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=333094&is=REG&addedTroughType=search Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Scott, > > > > Which Kodak paper did you use: Premium or Professional? > > It was the latest Kodak paper as of 3/04 that was said by Kodak to be a > "breakthrough." They were marketing is under the name "Ultima Picture > Paper," "ColorLast" version. The inks were the HP 7660 B&W inks. They were > printed by a third party. My interest was that Kodak was claiming something > like 100 years even without framing. It turns out, of course, that Kodak > simply re-defined how much light a print would get in "100 years" of > display. Nonetheless, it appears to be a good "swellable polymer" type of > paper. > > > > > By the way, I was using Epson inks in the R800, fwiw. > > The Kodak paper I used was specifically for dyes. My attempts to print > pigments on these swellable emulsions has resulted in prints that take a > very long time to dry. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > > > > > > HP Premium Plus Photo Paper should be the only paper to use with > > an > > > > HP photo printer if you expect longevity. > > > > > > > > > > In March 2004 I fade tested the HP B&W ink on HP, Ilford Classic > > Pearl, and > > > Kodak's latest paper at the time. They were all close, with the HP > > paper > > > having a very slight edge in the midtones, and Kodak having a > > slightly > > > better dmax after the fade test. (The Ilford 100% patch actually > > increased > > > in density, but it was significantly lower to start with.) I > > generally > > > concluded the swellable papers on the market are close to the same > > and all > > > very good considering the inks are dyes. (They are still not in > > the same > > > league with carbon, however.) > > > > > > Paul > > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > > the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > > section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
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[Digital BW] Re: Kirkland Paper Print Longevity?
2005-08-14 by scott_now_coming
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