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[Digital BW] Re: Kirkland Paper Print Longevity?

2005-08-14 by scott_now_coming

Here's a better link for a quick look:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?
O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=333094&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Scott,
> 
>  
> > Which Kodak paper did you use: Premium or Professional?
> 
> It was the latest Kodak paper as of 3/04 that was said by Kodak to 
be a
> "breakthrough."  They were marketing is under the name "Ultima 
Picture
> Paper," "ColorLast" version.  The inks were the HP 7660 B&W inks.  
They were
> printed by a third party.  My interest was that Kodak was claiming 
something
> like 100 years even without framing.  It turns out, of course, that 
Kodak
> simply re-defined how much light a print would get in "100 years" of
> display.  Nonetheless, it appears to be a good "swellable polymer" 
type of
> paper.
> 
> > 
> > By the way, I was using Epson inks in the R800, fwiw.
> 
> The Kodak paper I used was specifically for dyes.  My attempts to 
print
> pigments on these swellable emulsions has resulted in prints that 
take a
> very long time to dry.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> > <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > HP Premium Plus Photo Paper should be the only paper to use 
with
> > an
> > > > HP photo printer if you expect longevity.
> > > >
> > >
> > > In March 2004 I fade tested the HP B&W ink on HP, Ilford Classic
> > Pearl, and
> > > Kodak's latest paper at the time.  They were all close, with 
the HP
> > paper
> > > having a very slight edge in the midtones, and Kodak having a
> > slightly
> > > better dmax after the fade test.  (The Ilford 100% patch 
actually
> > increased
> > > in density, but it was significantly lower to start with.)  I
> > generally
> > > concluded the swellable papers on the market are close to the 
same
> > and all
> > > very good considering the inks are dyes.  (They are still not in
> > the same
> > > league with carbon, however.)
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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