Thanks for the info Paul. On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:40 PM, Paul Roark wrote: > Carl, > > I don't have a "for sure" answer on this, but I think it's in all > of the UT > inks except to the extent that MIS has inventory. In short, the > old base is > totally history, but I suspect MIS is not eager to have people hold > off > buying because they don't want the old base. On the flip side, I > have not > checked the UT inks for changes, but a few samples indicate that > the new > base may slightly affect ink density and tone. (I suspect, that is > what the > new Pro Archival inkset is all about.) I'm waiting for a full set > of inks > so that I can check the UT mixing formulas. As of now, MIS is just > using > the existing formulas to mix the inks where they need to. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of >> Carl >> Schofield >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:27 PM >> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Fade test -- 4800 v. UT7, MIS old v. new, & >> Kirkland >> >> Is the "new base" in any of the inksets that MIS is currently >> selling? >> >> On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:05 PM, Paul Roark wrote: >> >> >>> My latest fade test (compact fluorescent light) reached 600 hours. >>> So, I >>> have some initial fade results. >>> >>> The short version: UT7 showed less fading than the 4800 "Advanced >>> B&W" mode >>> prints both in the highlights and at 50%; the MIS new base does not >>> appear >>> to negatively affect UT performance; and inks on Kirkland paper are >>> very >>> stable. >>> >>> >>> Notes: The results are expressed in Lab and were read with the X- >>> Rite DTP 22 >>> spectrophotometer. The same paper batches were used for all >>> comparisons. >>> The results shown are the average of 3 readings. The affects of the >>> variability of the spectrophotometer were minimized by reading >>> comparison >>> test strips at the same time. The actual starting, pre-fade >>> densities may >>> vary from the control test strips, but comparisons based on the pre- >>> fade >>> measurements resulted in similar comparisons. The UT7 comparison >>> test >>> strips were printed with "neutral" curves that were modified to >>> match the >>> density and tone of the 4800 test strips as closely as reasonably >>> possible. >>> >>> >>> Spectrophotometer readings: >>> >>> EEM 0% (paper white) Control: (96.83, 1.03, -3.49) >>> >>> Change: (-0.04, -1.4, 4.48) >>> >>> Comment: As we know, the paper yellows. >>> This will affect mostly the highlight results. >>> >>> 4800 EEM AB&W Neutral 5% Control: (92.76, 1.20, -3.79) >>> >>> Change: (0.16, -1.49, 4.92) >>> >>> 7600 UT7 Neutral 5% Control: (92.79, 0.83, -3.98) >>> >>> Change: (-0.02, -1.59, 4.94) >>> >>> >>> >>> 4800 EEM AB&W Neutral 10% Control: (88.35, 1.07, -3.11) >>> >>> Change: (0.52, -1.39, 4.73) >>> >>> 7600 UT7 Neutral 10% Control: (89.18, 0.34, -3.34) >>> >>> Change: (-0.04, -1.41, 4.53) >>> >>> >>> 4800 EEM AB&W Neutral 50% Control: (53.55, 0.72, 0.38) >>> >>> Change: (0.67, -0.55, 2.04) >>> >>> 7600 UT7 Neutral 50% Control: (54.04, 1.96, -0.27) >>> >>> Change: (0.08, -0.68, 1.93) >>> >>> 2200 UT7 New Base 50% Control: (53.53, 1.17, 0.14) >>> >>> Change: (-0.14, -0.68, 2.04) >>> >>> Kirkland UT7 50% Control: (56.54, -0.52, -4.17) >>> >>> Change: (-0.33, -0.56, 1.24) >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul >>> www.PaulRoark.com >>>
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Re: [Digital BW] Fade test -- 4800 v. UT7, MIS old v. new, & Kirkland
2005-08-16 by Carl Schofield
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