I should add though that one of the bigger issues facing digital cameras is their exposure/metering systems. Designed for film these systems have not made the transition to exposing for the linear nature of a chip. They still meter for a "middle grey" - not necessarily 18% but still a middle grey of some sort. The manufacturers still have a leg in either camp. Their metering is film centric while the capture plane is digital. The sooner the two are properly aligned the better. In my humble opinion, a change here will do more for 35mm digital quality than a few more pixels. > From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...> > > I suspect that noise will still be a big issue. The medium format backs > will beat the Canon "Big Dog" if only because an SLR shooter requires a > level of speed that the typical medium format digi-back shooter doesn't. At > some point I am sure speed implies greater noise (I am not talking about ISO > speed). > > I am, though, very surprised by your comment re Canon glass. I only have > two Canon lenses: the 28-70 f2.8L and the 70-200 f2.8L. Admittedly the > Canon glass I have is one generation old - the first replaced by the 24-70 > f2.8L and the second by an IS version - but neither of these comes close to > my Contax Zeiss 80mm planar or 120 Makro-Planar. > > I have used the Phase One backs (up to the P25) in a studio, handheld, with > the Contax 645/80 Planar. They beat the 1ds2 for sharpness and detail any > day. > > >> From: <claudej1@...> > >> >> I'm just saying that if Canon were to take the amazing performance of the >> 20d's electronics, maintain the same well site pitch, and make a full frame >> chip >> with it, they would have a 24 Megapixel Super-Baaaaad Big Dog SLR that they >> could advertise as having more pixels than the more expensive Medium Format >> backs. >> >> Since the average resolution of premium Canon glass is 20-100% higher than >> medium format glass, they would compare favorably with the MF backs/MF >> cameras >> costing much more so a jump from 16 Megapixels to 24 is entirely feasible >> RIGHT NOW if they want to do it. >> >> But it's all words on my part not theirs. >> >> Claude > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership > without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the > membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See „Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines‰ in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE „OWNER‰ AND > „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, > USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE „OWNER‰ AND „MODERATORS‰ OF > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR > TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] 1Ds Mk III prediction (was new canons)
2005-08-24 by Steve Kale
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